1 00:00:01,88 --> 00:00:02,27 But you have 2 00:00:02,28 --> 00:00:09,47 a fool for. The wonderful. All right our first item 3 00:00:09,48 --> 00:00:13,32 is our north east wireless services we had 4 00:00:13,89 --> 00:00:20,80 a rough draft of the language. And Bill and Brian you've been in discussion about 5 00:00:20,81 --> 00:00:27,29 some of that language you know. Bill why do you think it is quite terms of your 6 00:00:27,30 --> 00:00:31,43 discussion that serve our members have any questions about the language you can 7 00:00:32,25 --> 00:00:34,26 make it work so I've received 8 00:00:34,55 --> 00:00:39,31 a few of the comments that I really see both from the border and what they're. 9 00:00:40,33 --> 00:00:46,59 Looking for some way from there with that. I'll walk you through quickly the format 10 00:00:46,75 --> 00:00:51,67 that we use is the email copy to save the one that's handed out it would write for 11 00:00:51,90 --> 00:00:58,14 some minor changes that are for brief to look and which just the more for the one 12 00:00:58,15 --> 00:01:04,60 you distribute to some people it will work with the graphs to update the OK. To 13 00:01:04,61 --> 00:01:10,59 just incorporate in. The draft right here. 14 00:01:11,92 --> 00:01:16,28 I think that you just want to build with that graph wrapped up with nothing. 15 00:01:19,18 --> 00:01:21,81 More you have one of the menial handstamp. 16 00:01:30,15 --> 00:01:30,57 And when you're 17 00:01:30,69 --> 00:01:37,43 a white one coming and. I do email to Maria from Brian Wilson 18 00:01:37,64 --> 00:01:42,56 Oh it there's an email to over on it was just like yeah he Hello. 19 00:01:45,80 --> 00:01:52,79 OK although. Basically the front email is so corresponded crusade from now which 20 00:01:52,80 --> 00:01:58,63 we've been looted from but it's. The text or the draft decision. 21 00:02:01,38 --> 00:02:07,70 We structured it is some of the normal special permits so. You know what we go 22 00:02:07,71 --> 00:02:12,99 through the format with you. The first page is basically the outlook and the 23 00:02:13,00 --> 00:02:19,60 representative and their contact information. Second page. Is 24 00:02:19,61 --> 00:02:25,71 property information then we get into the procedural history I mean look at the 25 00:02:25,72 --> 00:02:32,00 case three from the first submittal as well as the current submental because 26 00:02:32,01 --> 00:02:37,20 a lot of the information that pertained to the application in as part of the record 27 00:02:38,18 --> 00:02:38,80 pertaining from 28 00:02:38,81 --> 00:02:46,21 a first application. So basically just to feel to stream through 29 00:02:46,21 --> 00:02:53,11 . Page. What. You think. We 30 00:02:53,12 --> 00:03:00,02 got into the findings. Technical stuff you know where what we're considering the 31 00:03:00,03 --> 00:03:05,56 site. Short description of the personal wireless service facility 32 00:03:06,69 --> 00:03:13,45 then we get into regulatory findings we go through the specials permit section of 33 00:03:13,46 --> 00:03:20,26 the regulations all special permit should have this section you know. And 34 00:03:20,27 --> 00:03:22,03 basically it goes through 35 00:03:22,04 --> 00:03:26,73 a number of the criteria not all special permits and measurable goals such as 36 00:03:26,74 --> 00:03:33,53 traffic flow. Economic or community needs. Adequacy of utilities and 37 00:03:33,64 --> 00:03:40,14 other public support for the. Character of the neighborhood they'll be underlined 38 00:03:40,52 --> 00:03:46,41 anything. The underlines are basically the specific criteria that we're talking 39 00:03:46,42 --> 00:03:52,04 about. Section in that section and reference section. 40 00:03:57,05 --> 00:04:03,80 OK. On page two more. Week then jump into the section 41 00:04:04,42 --> 00:04:10,31 five by law pertaining to yourself Our if you need briefly discuss 42 00:04:10,32 --> 00:04:17,23 a few of the items for Cheney to that. Then we get into the decision. And 43 00:04:17,24 --> 00:04:21,13 we yes we did and I think the members and the applicant pointing out that this is 44 00:04:21,14 --> 00:04:23,40 not an earth ruled and he is 45 00:04:23,41 --> 00:04:29,43 a community wireless person personal wireless service facility if. And. 46 00:04:31,75 --> 00:04:35,54 When this is not what basically this is the development of our first step for 47 00:04:35,55 --> 00:04:36,15 decision for 48 00:04:36,16 --> 00:04:42,62 a person wireless service facility. And then as we proceed basically 49 00:04:43,38 --> 00:04:48,41 this is where I think we need to start focusing on the conditions that we're 50 00:04:48,42 --> 00:04:54,94 talking about the ties this is the first one that we're deciding upon and I 51 00:04:54,95 --> 00:05:01,14 basically grab bits and pieces of all their decisions what he was even close to 52 00:05:01,18 --> 00:05:06,51 being appropriate included So you know I think you should go through these probably 53 00:05:06,52 --> 00:05:11,98 one of time starting with starting with Page four bait number one. 54 00:05:14,48 --> 00:05:18,50 Evidence at the start firm it has been basically these are going to be up 55 00:05:18,51 --> 00:05:25,33 conditions for. Years with. In the sense that the applicant has to adhere 56 00:05:25,34 --> 00:05:30,11 to. One A is evidence that the special permit has been filed with Westar County 57 00:05:30,12 --> 00:05:33,54 Register of the need to present the planning board prior to the start of any 58 00:05:33,55 --> 00:05:36,16 construction. B. 59 00:05:36,22 --> 00:05:41,25 Is this special permit is nontransferable of any other parties listed in section 60 00:05:41,26 --> 00:05:45,28 one per second for change to special per becomes invalid and you special or if 61 00:05:45,29 --> 00:05:45,54 you'll be 62 00:05:45,55 --> 00:05:50,04 a reformer now if you look at the applicants e-mail in the front front when. 63 00:06:02,29 --> 00:06:03,44 He leaves out one B. 64 00:06:03,45 --> 00:06:07,67 Is in conflict with left to six last barefoot permits one with the lady and not the 65 00:06:07,68 --> 00:06:14,11 applicant. So I know we've had that condition and other permit 66 00:06:14,12 --> 00:06:21,06 applications right what spend. Your experience just hasn't ever 67 00:06:21,07 --> 00:06:28,00 happened where one carrier put up. Our in for whatever reason. That led to 68 00:06:28,01 --> 00:06:33,98 what the other was very wrong and my business that. Even with my with in my company 69 00:06:33,99 --> 00:06:36,51 that I would partner with somebody else as 70 00:06:36,52 --> 00:06:40,89 a venture backer for the actual construction of this hour and they would want to 71 00:06:40,90 --> 00:06:43,83 piece of this and we would set up a separate L.L.C. 72 00:06:43,84 --> 00:06:48,24 For that and city. And that would require the assignment of 73 00:06:48,25 --> 00:06:54,06 a special permit into that entity also. You know it's possible that 74 00:06:54,07 --> 00:06:59,97 a portfolio of powers that I've developed may be sold in their entirety and I've 75 00:06:59,98 --> 00:07:04,89 never seen those restriction on any tower development the most restrictive that 76 00:07:04,90 --> 00:07:09,28 I've seen of Ford imposed is that I'm required to provide notice of 77 00:07:09,29 --> 00:07:16,15 a sign so they know. You know who the who's responsible for the. In fact I 78 00:07:16,16 --> 00:07:21,33 was when I saw the draft that goes very night to send me with trying to find 79 00:07:21,34 --> 00:07:27,20 precedents for this in the state law in other formats that I could find and the 80 00:07:27,21 --> 00:07:33,05 only precedent I see in other towns zoning ordinances for non transportability of 81 00:07:33,06 --> 00:07:38,70 special permit is related to adult entertainment the stablish and. That's And I 82 00:07:38,71 --> 00:07:45,53 guess the reason for that is because it's really specific to. Applicants 83 00:07:45,57 --> 00:07:50,34 activities on the site that the sound would want to control and not make sure that 84 00:07:50,35 --> 00:07:56,81 gets transferred randomly but this is an unmanned radio facility I'm not sure 85 00:07:57,44 --> 00:08:04,26 how the ownership of that the Sylvie's of facts or impacts the town. You know what 86 00:08:04,27 --> 00:08:10,84 do you think your eyes only deal with yourself. And I know. 87 00:08:13,49 --> 00:08:16,28 And especially for me it is those days are best for me I'm like 88 00:08:16,29 --> 00:08:19,04 a variant maybe condition I live in 89 00:08:19,05 --> 00:08:24,78 a new generation to return to the applicant technically is first of all it is noted 90 00:08:25,66 --> 00:08:30,13 that if it doesn't go with the way I am like a variant on 91 00:08:30,14 --> 00:08:35,29 a magically if you please if air. You know that's forever pretty much on the ground 92 00:08:35,30 --> 00:08:41,59 special for me it's not it's not automatic that if we 93 00:08:42,49 --> 00:08:48,83 change of ownership that doesn't mean that you can't put it in their state. That 94 00:08:49,60 --> 00:08:52,41 upon ownership just not to teach like 95 00:08:52,48 --> 00:08:56,77 a man just one you just think to me I don't I would want to see you know that 96 00:08:56,78 --> 00:09:03,71 president for example like him if you feel it would not work for you. That's 97 00:09:03,72 --> 00:09:05,60 your right. Being had 98 00:09:05,61 --> 00:09:09,01 a really not special permit that you're seeking Grannis was the V.A. 99 00:09:09,02 --> 00:09:13,90 Could still special permit for the use and when they changed ownership be required 100 00:09:13,91 --> 00:09:18,64 to come back to the board to transfer that special form so I would like something 101 00:09:18,87 --> 00:09:19,01 with 102 00:09:19,02 --> 00:09:26,38 a place not necessarily never told you that you're in. At least something. To 103 00:09:26,39 --> 00:09:28,13 compete. On 104 00:09:28,14 --> 00:09:35,32 a ship to be you know. Which 105 00:09:35,33 --> 00:09:42,16 is not right OK. Yeah but we have heard 106 00:09:42,17 --> 00:09:45,32 that over the last meeting and I thought that was going to be one of the but it was 107 00:09:45,33 --> 00:09:49,12 concerned that if we could have Ron she would know who to contact right and that we 108 00:09:49,13 --> 00:09:50,98 all agreed that yes we should have 109 00:09:50,99 --> 00:09:57,03 a special condition that. All of your family contact at any one time and if it's 110 00:09:57,04 --> 00:10:02,93 a change of ownership. And that information would also be. Part of the condition 111 00:10:03,02 --> 00:10:07,45 part of the condition but I don't think they do every time I think you're stupid 112 00:10:07,49 --> 00:10:08,00 Wilson is 113 00:10:08,01 --> 00:10:13,97 a yes or no cell towers it is true you know the. One big firm can buy out another 114 00:10:13,98 --> 00:10:17,72 big for no one acquire them and all this and they have to come back in with 115 00:10:17,73 --> 00:10:20,84 a special Another hearing everything basically that nothing's going to change to 116 00:10:20,85 --> 00:10:26,21 the tower it's right there so what would the wording be for this condition. If you 117 00:10:26,22 --> 00:10:32,92 cannot pollute this ticket at any time that the this already is. Any of the parties 118 00:10:32,93 --> 00:10:37,94 listed as sexual under section for change that the child who was community 119 00:10:37,95 --> 00:10:43,45 development or Michelle forthwith be so notified in writing without phone numbers 120 00:10:43,46 --> 00:10:45,95 email or I can still hear about a person with 121 00:10:46,49 --> 00:10:53,23 a permit transfer. Permit transfer 122 00:10:53,73 --> 00:10:58,40 with you. I rather see it automatic interest for 123 00:10:58,41 --> 00:11:01,90 a good sits there like you said for the last one for the project was for the cell 124 00:11:01,91 --> 00:11:07,92 tower for the cell towers granted under special. Or by laws of the proper section 125 00:11:08,48 --> 00:11:14,38 and that will change that still existing still in force all conditions can still be 126 00:11:14,39 --> 00:11:20,80 enforced and enforceable as well help and I agree with what will be your saying 127 00:11:21,64 --> 00:11:24,36 I just think you need to be whether it's just 128 00:11:24,37 --> 00:11:30,61 a simple form you. Know on then you're going to have 129 00:11:31,58 --> 00:11:38,33 no fees. And the other question is going to be where you quit for public you 130 00:11:38,34 --> 00:11:43,80 are. Basically like you know one of the concerns of the neighborhood being that we 131 00:11:43,81 --> 00:11:49,08 information public key to notify somebody so if we were to get some kind of 132 00:11:49,09 --> 00:11:54,52 beautification somebody would be my new board agent with billing department to 133 00:11:54,53 --> 00:12:00,46 verify that all that information has been changed accordingly because I'm you know 134 00:12:00,47 --> 00:12:06,05 on the fence at the. Moment so there's going to have to be 135 00:12:06,06 --> 00:12:11,90 a side with all the information I should be However access to the police department 136 00:12:11,98 --> 00:12:17,15 sorry for making that change and that again just something some way to do it again 137 00:12:17,16 --> 00:12:19,43 doesn't have to be a lengthy process just 138 00:12:19,44 --> 00:12:25,18 a matter of form or some kind of note if you. Have. 139 00:12:27,39 --> 00:12:34,13 A trigger is to be seen so if we're going to take safely you want. I'm worried your 140 00:12:34,14 --> 00:12:40,82 condition you know read the reviews for me from the wound to the troops already in 141 00:12:40,91 --> 00:12:45,62 place. But I. Agree. 142 00:12:48,27 --> 00:12:51,04 Here I think I think to your point there should be 143 00:12:51,05 --> 00:12:52,95 a single point of contact whether an A B. 144 00:12:52,96 --> 00:12:55,07 A butter police and fire or 145 00:12:55,08 --> 00:12:59,35 a future building inspector any place bank or in the future some sense I want to 146 00:12:59,36 --> 00:13:03,11 know what you know have that good animal research copy the special permit Where is 147 00:13:03,12 --> 00:13:08,24 it who is at this point of contact and that should be probably ten or Douglas who 148 00:13:08,25 --> 00:13:11,97 is planning or community development that's who wish we issued 149 00:13:11,98 --> 00:13:17,23 a special permit so it should be somewhere in the files or archives of the language 150 00:13:17,23 --> 00:13:23,19 . I'm sorry if I may decide to revise draft I just sort of thought about this I 151 00:13:23,20 --> 00:13:27,41 thought maybe I did revised reference and then give some input but what I'm 152 00:13:27,42 --> 00:13:31,58 thinking is that it would say if any of the parties with new section one through 153 00:13:31,59 --> 00:13:38,27 for change then the appropriate information changes in one group or shall be posted 154 00:13:38,28 --> 00:13:41,22 with the planner prior to any such assignment are still. 155 00:13:45,60 --> 00:13:50,80 Posted So if you've got this you hear that indicate through all the contacts are 156 00:13:50,86 --> 00:13:56,71 right if I change any of these I'm going to post make the changes on the work 157 00:13:56,72 --> 00:14:03,02 similar form and give it to the planner prior to any such transfer to me David you 158 00:14:03,03 --> 00:14:04,00 mentioned sort of 159 00:14:04,55 --> 00:14:08,89 a form of the symbol form to get all the changes correct and then and then we 160 00:14:09,02 --> 00:14:14,36 submit the people of this minute to keep it I reckon for if you're planning more 161 00:14:14,41 --> 00:14:21,41 members. OK Steve nothing representable along with the prime you 162 00:14:21,42 --> 00:14:25,78 rather than you know that you have been married for families of the time for. 163 00:14:26,87 --> 00:14:31,88 That's not information also among us and we were pretty frightening in any changes 164 00:14:31,88 --> 00:14:38,15 . In that year has posted with Mark. Records when you look at scoring or 165 00:14:39,01 --> 00:14:45,22 getting any kind of you know this one right. After this the violinist you get I 166 00:14:45,23 --> 00:14:51,12 mean you know for so you know you know at least once a year you. Always have 167 00:14:51,13 --> 00:14:57,15 a scene in in with you next year let's own up to it well. Yeah. 168 00:14:59,63 --> 00:15:04,55 OK Tell us more as we all know where that point of contact is so the bill you've 169 00:15:04,56 --> 00:15:08,14 been scribbling away there on the surface so we go with Laurie which the Bryant 170 00:15:08,15 --> 00:15:12,16 report poster said is that yes I think that's essential information the contacts 171 00:15:12,17 --> 00:15:16,82 and everything right OK Well I have to talk about registering with the top clerk as 172 00:15:16,91 --> 00:15:20,83 we can if I'm that at the end that's fine as opposed to the plate worrying if 173 00:15:20,84 --> 00:15:26,34 you're looking out into here that building is probably Berfield. OK Right I have to 174 00:15:26,35 --> 00:15:32,14 ask the question to the board what's the board's objection to leaving it the way it 175 00:15:32,15 --> 00:15:37,62 is. And when something changes it comes back to the board. 176 00:15:41,07 --> 00:15:44,99 For a new special permit Yeah so what's the problem with that I mean that's 177 00:15:45,00 --> 00:15:51,76 a late the involved process I think it's unnecessary just like why do you mean 178 00:15:51,77 --> 00:15:55,74 doesn't this just going to be passed from one thousand nine hundred of our eyes or 179 00:15:55,75 --> 00:15:58,92 something like that somebody else is going to operate it it's an assignment to 180 00:15:58,93 --> 00:16:03,29 another company A buys about or whatever everyone's concerns that I listened to was 181 00:16:03,56 --> 00:16:09,18 to make sure it gets done and who do we contact and who gets notified distances 182 00:16:09,19 --> 00:16:16,19 well you can search through it here this is pretty simple in my viewpoint. I don't 183 00:16:16,20 --> 00:16:22,93 think it issuance of any keeps the time. Informed up to date and 184 00:16:23,36 --> 00:16:28,21 so would the other special some of the other conditions you just discussed. And I 185 00:16:28,22 --> 00:16:33,58 believe this has more teeth than the other. Just notify somebody. 186 00:16:35,63 --> 00:16:36,67 Yeah on 187 00:16:36,68 --> 00:16:41,73 a cell tower it was just built operating I know it well you know it just sits there 188 00:16:41,73 --> 00:16:48,33 . And we hope and we. You know bridges are built and disposed to just that 189 00:16:49,58 --> 00:16:53,07 doesn't always happen special permit still in effect if they change or want to 190 00:16:53,08 --> 00:16:56,98 change any condition or anything here they would have to come back to the board and 191 00:16:56,99 --> 00:16:59,25 ask for an amendment to the special permit or even 192 00:16:59,26 --> 00:17:01,62 a new one at that point and what do we do say no that's 193 00:17:01,63 --> 00:17:06,46 a pain in the ass we don't do for you permits once there if you. Know if there's 194 00:17:06,47 --> 00:17:12,36 a change in the structure or its size or height or something and that's already 195 00:17:12,37 --> 00:17:17,83 visible change you know that's already handled in the. Original agreement just 196 00:17:17,84 --> 00:17:18,95 a transfer of ownership is 197 00:17:18,96 --> 00:17:22,43 a sure doesn't get I think it's going to all special permit process here just 198 00:17:22,44 --> 00:17:26,04 because somebody else bought it if they want to change something my feeling is the 199 00:17:26,05 --> 00:17:32,33 town has more control over if you keep it under the special program and not just 200 00:17:32,50 --> 00:17:32,96 put it on 201 00:17:32,97 --> 00:17:39,75 a baps shelf somewhere and. Hopefully the building inspector of the town clerk gets 202 00:17:39,76 --> 00:17:46,64 a notice. What I'm going to think that's inspection and the transfer. I'm 203 00:17:46,65 --> 00:17:53,40 deeply personal the board. And we have notified we are aware of it. 204 00:17:55,69 --> 00:17:59,82 But the special permit goes in the lab goes on the structure to talk about the 205 00:17:59,83 --> 00:18:03,10 transfer. Not according to 206 00:18:03,11 --> 00:18:08,25 a building inspector who doesn't want to go out with Dorian. I think what usually 207 00:18:08,59 --> 00:18:14,83 you may or may write exactly. Just or not to give 208 00:18:15,32 --> 00:18:17,00 a special permit unlike 209 00:18:17,01 --> 00:18:21,25 a variance is not automatically transferred you can assume I go there it's 210 00:18:21,26 --> 00:18:24,84 a variance you can sell your you can go for a variance get a variance to build 211 00:18:24,85 --> 00:18:26,92 a house or non-conforming lot you can sell 212 00:18:26,93 --> 00:18:30,13 a house ninety five times and it doesn't matter that the area stays with only 213 00:18:30,79 --> 00:18:36,52 special permits not like that but what I said was you can in your conditions. 214 00:18:37,65 --> 00:18:43,47 Make it simpler like Mr Olson Yes You know it was suggested like we talked about 215 00:18:43,48 --> 00:18:50,28 you there is some kind of notification rather example. Of how it has gone 216 00:18:50,29 --> 00:18:54,08 retail retail they have to in and notify us of 217 00:18:54,09 --> 00:18:57,76 a change of ownership per se but it's not 218 00:18:57,77 --> 00:19:04,49 a whole change of use changes are you can see it's the same type of use so it's the 219 00:19:04,50 --> 00:19:09,95 same type of occupancy but they still have to notify you of that change of use 220 00:19:09,96 --> 00:19:13,23 because. You know people assume that just because 221 00:19:13,24 --> 00:19:14,94 a business use can be dug into our lives in 222 00:19:14,95 --> 00:19:18,64 a couple of farms it does not stand acquirements So we have to do 223 00:19:18,65 --> 00:19:23,60 a change of use even though it's still two businesses just because you're changing 224 00:19:23,64 --> 00:19:28,37 ownership you want to make sure that you ownership is aware of what three arguments 225 00:19:28,38 --> 00:19:34,28 are so there has to be something put in place for that and I'd assume that you can 226 00:19:34,29 --> 00:19:34,49 on 227 00:19:34,50 --> 00:19:40,78 a man I think you know you may sell to sprint or who are already houses that nasally 228 00:19:40,95 --> 00:19:45,45 many with six more intends on well that's not really the case you want to make sure 229 00:19:45,45 --> 00:19:51,24 . First time I've seen the ownership also has the condition and it probably is no 230 00:19:51,25 --> 00:19:56,08 surprise you know what there are so there's some kind of notification to the board 231 00:19:56,43 --> 00:20:00,69 to the special permit granting it's already as well as the enforcement person which 232 00:20:00,70 --> 00:20:07,60 would be. So in order being in force they only just 233 00:20:07,61 --> 00:20:13,57 like these numbers and see if they were found to do it for guess if they forget to 234 00:20:13,58 --> 00:20:17,70 change the sign or change in the case number and for the fire department did not 235 00:20:17,71 --> 00:20:22,46 meet his fire or whatever and they and they had to act that you want to make sure 236 00:20:22,47 --> 00:20:24,79 that all of those things that we have on as 237 00:20:24,80 --> 00:20:30,77 a permanent condition are transferred so if you look in letter B. 238 00:20:30,78 --> 00:20:37,67 Now. If you took out that first sentence the special permits nontransferable if you 239 00:20:37,68 --> 00:20:44,45 just deleted that and you began with. Say the parties listed as section one through 240 00:20:44,46 --> 00:20:51,17 four change. This something to the fact that the special permit may transfer but 241 00:20:51,18 --> 00:20:53,66 only. After going through 242 00:20:53,67 --> 00:20:59,59 a process. Et cetera et cetera by the planning board so it's not necessarily have 243 00:20:59,60 --> 00:21:03,75 to start the whole public hearing it again but that there is something in place 244 00:21:03,76 --> 00:21:09,84 that before the special permits is transferred that there be proper notification or 245 00:21:09,85 --> 00:21:14,40 something like follow their eyes by the prince for 246 00:21:14,41 --> 00:21:19,24 a fall of zero point four So it's not a public hearing per se but at least you get 247 00:21:19,25 --> 00:21:25,92 a letter where you know the change is called. We think about that right well 248 00:21:26,75 --> 00:21:32,06 my only concern is implicit in the way it's worded now with 249 00:21:32,07 --> 00:21:35,87 a special permit and even less arise upon approval of the planning board implicit 250 00:21:35,88 --> 00:21:41,55 in that is that the planning board can restrict my business activities and maybe 251 00:21:41,56 --> 00:21:45,68 that's where you're trying maybe that's the intention that you know my free 252 00:21:45,69 --> 00:21:51,42 exchange of business assets could be restricted by the Planning Board. I'm not 253 00:21:51,43 --> 00:21:54,71 trying to say that you shouldn't have the information that you seek I think that's 254 00:21:54,72 --> 00:22:01,59 a great idea but if I provide notice of who would be asking me is prior to 255 00:22:01,60 --> 00:22:07,45 any transfer to whoever the town's egg designates then I think I've accomplished 256 00:22:07,46 --> 00:22:12,98 your goal of just making sure that you have contact to reach the fire department 257 00:22:12,99 --> 00:22:18,23 does or anybody else does to know who the point of contact is if anybody changes 258 00:22:19,03 --> 00:22:22,92 but if we had that sort of they were either sort of an L. 259 00:22:22,93 --> 00:22:29,47 Word about it transfers. With approval the planning board or whatever you could 260 00:22:29,48 --> 00:22:36,47 still do all of that stuff you know said that information to the can be developed 261 00:22:36,48 --> 00:22:42,50 a partner in the play but would still get it so if we simply worded it that special 262 00:22:42,51 --> 00:22:42,85 person 263 00:22:42,86 --> 00:22:48,01 a transfer or with approval of the planning board how is that more. Burdensome that 264 00:22:48,02 --> 00:22:53,32 is what you want to do. Well anytime I see the word approval right implies that 265 00:22:53,33 --> 00:22:59,94 there could be no no for it OK It's actually very. He's losing certain freedoms to 266 00:23:00,00 --> 00:23:05,23 run a business well not necessarily as a hawk it's a hook has got 267 00:23:05,24 --> 00:23:09,50 a hook if you sit in there saying you special permit or we're not say that though. 268 00:23:10,66 --> 00:23:15,02 I thought your vanilla thing was OK but it delves I think pretty clear that you 269 00:23:15,03 --> 00:23:21,65 can't. Get special permits can't. Run they're not adequate 270 00:23:22,11 --> 00:23:28,85 not automatic So how do you how do you word it so it's clear to the applicant 271 00:23:28,86 --> 00:23:33,05 that the special permit is not automatic from quarter to Holder why would we want 272 00:23:33,06 --> 00:23:37,39 to be why can't we say that right in the condition that it was over the land that 273 00:23:38,30 --> 00:23:42,76 according to her own is not right and we could make it one destructive or been 274 00:23:42,77 --> 00:23:47,20 restless three of which she's already read or two new words to assess three of her 275 00:23:47,21 --> 00:23:52,12 in the go ahead and apply for me I don't have to do the play know how many people 276 00:23:52,83 --> 00:23:59,49 can we do. And. I mean I don't know if if the book says that 277 00:23:59,50 --> 00:24:04,77 especially for purposes I was not asked for it will. Become fans who were thinking 278 00:24:04,78 --> 00:24:09,36 I know it doesn't say that and that is you're not I'm at right there you go OK you 279 00:24:09,37 --> 00:24:13,62 mean me so I mean I know you hate whenever someone down their property they think 280 00:24:13,63 --> 00:24:19,48 variance where they don't have to go back to the. Writing of Mary especially they 281 00:24:19,49 --> 00:24:25,38 have to go back in May you know to find any class to transfer So if we simply said 282 00:24:25,38 --> 00:24:31,91 . Special permit. Is transferable after notification to the play board of 283 00:24:31,92 --> 00:24:38,10 acts that takes away your approval word. Is that enough Yeah I. 284 00:24:39,14 --> 00:24:43,92 Mentioned you haven't heard that one word. Transfer when you let out 285 00:24:43,93 --> 00:24:49,41 a simple one page How do you think your first before that to be. A must play must 286 00:24:49,42 --> 00:24:52,91 be notified within thirty days after the transfer that's that's fine with me too 287 00:24:52,92 --> 00:24:58,84 but. So if we did that the wording was if we took out approval and put notification 288 00:24:59,71 --> 00:25:03,26 Yeah and I'm quoting with prior notification I'm fine with thirty days prior 289 00:25:03,27 --> 00:25:06,98 notification I I think that's reasonable that's fine that's fine with me them 290 00:25:07,54 --> 00:25:07,85 doesn't have 291 00:25:07,86 --> 00:25:13,21 a bone let's call them. Let's just say to be out of commission for more years and 292 00:25:13,25 --> 00:25:16,94 you know that all the right are now in writing you know what let me just read what 293 00:25:16,95 --> 00:25:22,70 I have said if any of the parties listed in sections one through for change then 294 00:25:22,86 --> 00:25:29,11 this special permit may transfer upon prior notification by the applicant or 295 00:25:29,81 --> 00:25:34,56 changes in writing in order for in writing. 296 00:25:37,66 --> 00:25:40,63 This is not mine but if we get to Cuba look at what you said 297 00:25:41,06 --> 00:25:47,88 a lot of what you think that OK with everybody anymore no. A right you want 298 00:25:47,89 --> 00:25:49,71 a full blown special permit process for 299 00:25:49,72 --> 00:25:56,72 a public hearing I'm just curious as to what. Subsets the board Well I think 300 00:25:56,73 --> 00:25:59,04 the sense is that the use of the land as a J.P.G. 301 00:25:59,04 --> 00:26:05,32 . So why do you need full bore in special for me when in fact the use of the land 302 00:26:05,51 --> 00:26:07,04 is to change especially if you have 303 00:26:07,05 --> 00:26:12,59 a. Cooperative That's the usual way. And if it's going to stay 304 00:26:12,60 --> 00:26:17,42 a gravel operation goes well and you stance and she. Well you've got 305 00:26:17,43 --> 00:26:23,75 a cell tower this is pretty passive. It's not changing at all so why go through the 306 00:26:23,76 --> 00:26:26,28 all special permit process percent. This is 307 00:26:26,29 --> 00:26:33,01 a cheat sheet I know you're assuming that's not changing. The scenario put up 308 00:26:33,02 --> 00:26:34,80 multiple antennas it's 309 00:26:34,81 --> 00:26:39,03 a recital that would change the nature of the original special purpose if the 310 00:26:39,04 --> 00:26:45,16 original value of to put up more than this that's covered in Tehran anyway well 311 00:26:45,17 --> 00:26:50,53 throughout to even one of the things I read whatever the federal rules and 312 00:26:50,57 --> 00:26:55,34 regulations whatever were there allowed to I think six arrays are telling us 313 00:26:55,35 --> 00:27:01,36 certain number as long as they don't exceed whatever you know so it's going to 314 00:27:01,37 --> 00:27:08,00 change. My viewpoint is I would rather have 315 00:27:08,04 --> 00:27:15,02 some teeth available to me just in case something changed. That. 316 00:27:16,76 --> 00:27:22,79 From our from and I'm trying to take the town's viewpoint you know no offense to Mr 317 00:27:22,80 --> 00:27:29,73 Wilson but he wants what he wants and. I feel that I 318 00:27:29,74 --> 00:27:35,18 have to sit here and look into the future and plan for the town and that may not 319 00:27:35,19 --> 00:27:39,93 necessarily make it easier for Mr Wilson. 320 00:27:42,41 --> 00:27:49,29 And I say so. But from what I'm hearing is. I 321 00:27:49,30 --> 00:27:53,76 have a feeling that in the not too distant future it could become 322 00:27:53,80 --> 00:27:59,94 a problem because there seemed I would think the less specific you get the more 323 00:28:00,22 --> 00:28:05,60 chances of things falling through the cracks the more loopholes will be found to do 324 00:28:05,61 --> 00:28:12,34 something and I I don't know what. I feel that if I had my 325 00:28:12,35 --> 00:28:19,15 choice I rather have. More teeth available to me should I choose in the 326 00:28:19,16 --> 00:28:22,78 future to half or being or even be in 327 00:28:22,79 --> 00:28:27,56 a position where I feel I have to use them I don't want to use them if I don't have 328 00:28:27,57 --> 00:28:32,00 them I can't use what let's take this hypothetical let's say that team 329 00:28:32,01 --> 00:28:38,66 a local cell to cell tower temporizing. You know if we do B.S. 330 00:28:38,67 --> 00:28:44,88 Threat we don't fight all the voters. A special permit public hearing 331 00:28:45,55 --> 00:28:46,17 and the guy makes 332 00:28:46,18 --> 00:28:52,56 a presentation and says nothing's changed nothing's changed I guess you could stamp 333 00:28:52,57 --> 00:28:59,18 it that night. What would you have the opportunity in case some to did 334 00:28:59,19 --> 00:29:00,81 change but the wording of 335 00:29:00,82 --> 00:29:06,08 a special permit is such that if it does change. Then they have to come back pretty 336 00:29:06,09 --> 00:29:12,27 special permit anyway. If it changes beyond the parameters of the original special 337 00:29:12,28 --> 00:29:16,91 permit so you're still if it rise into sight they're going to do something 338 00:29:16,92 --> 00:29:18,24 something so they still have to have 339 00:29:18,25 --> 00:29:24,01 a special per that that's what it says what my my contention is by loosening this 340 00:29:24,02 --> 00:29:31,01 up there is more there's more chance for it to move off 341 00:29:31,24 --> 00:29:38,19 into some very slow. And pretty soon we wake up and say hey what's that I didn't 342 00:29:38,20 --> 00:29:41,05 know that was a. Little thing at 343 00:29:41,06 --> 00:29:47,99 a time. I'm not sayin I'm saying maybe after ten changes of ownership 344 00:29:48,03 --> 00:29:54,97 something changes no big deal each one. Right David what do you think 345 00:29:55,67 --> 00:29:56,46 but B. 346 00:29:56,94 --> 00:30:03,64 I would like to hear what Ellen has written fully let me know OK. If any of the 347 00:30:03,65 --> 00:30:10,41 parties listed in section one were section for change. Then this special permit may 348 00:30:10,42 --> 00:30:16,60 transfer upon prior notification in writing for the Play board all changes made. 349 00:30:18,23 --> 00:30:24,72 Within thirty days within thirty days. Of. Running rampant interest yeah. 350 00:30:26,51 --> 00:30:29,97 That's fine with me and I say we want to the next want to take 351 00:30:29,98 --> 00:30:34,94 a vote on this. We haven't. Heard all of this stuff here. 352 00:30:37,07 --> 00:30:41,39 But I agree with you it apparently doesn't change OK when how about you I agree 353 00:30:41,40 --> 00:30:48,33 with Mark. I don't have what I 354 00:30:48,34 --> 00:30:55,13 want you have. A proven move on OK Well well well well. Sort of by consensus except 355 00:30:55,14 --> 00:30:59,09 for one I think that you worry this is all going to vote on separately at the end 356 00:30:59,31 --> 00:31:04,86 yeah what do you think Stevie Wonder's done or if you want to play not with that 357 00:31:05,23 --> 00:31:09,78 kind of story thirty days prior when I logged in with him you might think it's more 358 00:31:09,79 --> 00:31:14,86 like. What you know as you. Know I'm. 359 00:31:18,37 --> 00:31:24,69 OK so let's see that. Inspection of the operation may be made at any reasonable 360 00:31:24,73 --> 00:31:28,32 hours by an agent of the board. Which more. 361 00:31:31,61 --> 00:31:37,93 Or I think. That's I assumption I would change it myself I would change it to the 362 00:31:38,14 --> 00:31:44,97 twenty board and boy. OK Next one built date erosion 363 00:31:44,98 --> 00:31:48,76 control measures shall be implemented as indicated on the grounds which I don't 364 00:31:48,77 --> 00:31:50,60 think they showed any and as 365 00:31:50,61 --> 00:31:54,33 a necessary by the plane the board agent still didn't interrupt the reason for. 366 00:31:59,10 --> 00:32:04,30 Writing that's not that would get the maximum grade of any sites but with the next 367 00:32:04,31 --> 00:32:11,27 day surely. Come from within the area shall be three to one thirty three 368 00:32:11,28 --> 00:32:15,67 percent. And no vertical side slope through the port of one horizontal should 369 00:32:15,68 --> 00:32:17,77 extend more than ten feet vertically without having 370 00:32:17,78 --> 00:32:22,49 a ten foot wide bench you know the math minimum pitch of two percent storm water 371 00:32:22,50 --> 00:32:24,95 generated from the special not discharge onto 372 00:32:24,96 --> 00:32:29,62 a bonding properties that's obviously originating from an earth ruled condition but 373 00:32:30,17 --> 00:32:34,12 they may have some side slopes when they construct the plateau which is why I 374 00:32:34,13 --> 00:32:39,71 wanted to leave in the three to one stuff. If I may because I wasn't sure if I was 375 00:32:39,72 --> 00:32:44,73 going to change after the young excavation languished but to minimize the amount of 376 00:32:44,74 --> 00:32:49,42 vegetation we have to take out we would generally do your side story for the 377 00:32:49,43 --> 00:32:50,85 excavation as opposed to 378 00:32:50,86 --> 00:32:56,52 a step slow Were we have over excavated significant here it so I don't know if 379 00:32:56,53 --> 00:33:01,61 that's something to do is allow So we would have vertical wall is our use our. 380 00:33:02,96 --> 00:33:04,80 Short vertical wall poles to 381 00:33:04,81 --> 00:33:11,79 a step step down excavation. That's that you are but that 382 00:33:11,80 --> 00:33:17,28 does not. Yes that's not birth with this is talking about primarily use birth and 383 00:33:17,29 --> 00:33:19,49 slopes OK so if you have 384 00:33:19,50 --> 00:33:24,89 a retaining wall or something along those lines. You know if it exceeds certain 385 00:33:24,90 --> 00:33:30,82 heights I'm sure there is. A structural issue doesn't apply to conduction which And 386 00:33:30,86 --> 00:33:35,26 that's where OK Trying to this would be finished grade side slopes OK. 387 00:33:37,98 --> 00:33:44,44 OK Well you also I mean. OK Bill carry any proposed work that is under the 388 00:33:44,45 --> 00:33:46,28 jurisdiction of the conservation must obtain 389 00:33:46,29 --> 00:33:49,64 a permit as required by the what was the connecting of the rivers the docks not. 390 00:33:51,07 --> 00:33:56,22 The application shall ensure safety in continued figure access to the project site 391 00:33:56,23 --> 00:34:03,02 during the entire duration of the project. OK I doubt. I could see 392 00:34:03,06 --> 00:34:04,30 something more than just 393 00:34:04,31 --> 00:34:10,01 a reasonably high tech and that's not mean to mention how to run the towers for 394 00:34:10,02 --> 00:34:16,97 emergency and I think that means brain. Damage the act. Of and 395 00:34:16,98 --> 00:34:23,02 I should write for you was what's happened at other sites in terms that people seem 396 00:34:23,03 --> 00:34:27,13 able to well drive up and take a look at them I mean for sites where we have 397 00:34:27,14 --> 00:34:30,25 a key to access off the road it's 398 00:34:30,26 --> 00:34:35,39 a combination walk that's on there and we provide that combination to safety 399 00:34:35,40 --> 00:34:41,00 officials and how about in the this particular case the boss of the site we are not 400 00:34:41,01 --> 00:34:43,04 proposing any access will be 401 00:34:43,05 --> 00:34:47,43 a padlock on the chain link fence surrounding the coffin on they're going to have 402 00:34:47,47 --> 00:34:52,96 to provide that combination to any so official as you deem necessary to have it be 403 00:34:52,97 --> 00:34:59,02 a combination lock also you know. Mark you had your hand up 404 00:34:59,86 --> 00:35:04,41 yeah same to tell I don't I don't understand it to ration of the project phrase 405 00:35:04,42 --> 00:35:08,36 there I didn't think it applied to something like this I thought that it should 406 00:35:08,37 --> 00:35:14,64 have access as long as the cell towers. Existant there should be an access to 407 00:35:14,65 --> 00:35:16,14 a good meeting Tigrane 408 00:35:16,21 --> 00:35:23,02 a permit. To protest. To get one. 409 00:35:25,97 --> 00:35:31,65 Right now you leasing the hundred one hundred and the road in. The road but road it 410 00:35:31,66 --> 00:35:37,04 is just access not for the building race. Will be you have 411 00:35:37,97 --> 00:35:44,54 a need to know so yes OK So that will be that that will remain this thread. 412 00:35:48,42 --> 00:35:55,39 OK but he also did she. Call each nuisance the Africanist responsible to 413 00:35:55,40 --> 00:35:59,83 ensure that those it's conditions do not necessarily limited to the following do 414 00:35:59,84 --> 00:36:01,57 not exist in and around the site as 415 00:36:01,58 --> 00:36:06,80 a result of the construction operation. The applicant shall at all times use 416 00:36:06,81 --> 00:36:12,95 reasonable means to minimize inconvenience to residents in the general area. One. 417 00:36:13,98 --> 00:36:17,79 Hours the hours of operation of for any construction activity sensational be 418 00:36:17,80 --> 00:36:22,06 between seven am and seven pm Monday through Friday eight am and five pm on 419 00:36:22,07 --> 00:36:26,50 Saturdays and no work shall be allowed on site Sundays or holidays as recognized by 420 00:36:26,51 --> 00:36:30,55 the Commonwealth of Massachusetts to dos the outlook H.L. 421 00:36:30,59 --> 00:36:37,39 Implement does control operations. Excuse me and it approve me under 422 00:36:37,43 --> 00:36:42,67 whatever necessary or when directed by the planning agent even though other work on 423 00:36:42,68 --> 00:36:47,08 the project may be suspended methods of controlling dust shall meet all your 424 00:36:47,09 --> 00:36:52,23 pollutant standards as support by federal and state regulatory agencies three ROIs 425 00:36:52,57 --> 00:36:55,71 the applicant shell implement measures to ensure that noise does not exceed 426 00:36:55,72 --> 00:37:01,17 acceptable levels Sept fourth by federal and state regulatory agencies the out of 427 00:37:01,18 --> 00:37:05,62 control she said excessive loud activities were directed by the inevitable 428 00:37:06,36 --> 00:37:10,98 migration the African shelf implement the necessary controls for sure that 429 00:37:10,99 --> 00:37:12,12 regulation does not create 430 00:37:12,13 --> 00:37:19,06 a nuisance for cows or the property for. Eleazar. Or play Agent able to. 431 00:37:20,29 --> 00:37:24,41 Carry out all these responsibilities we have paid practically in the interim for 432 00:37:24,61 --> 00:37:31,30 well he's got to know he's here just like rationing here. In 433 00:37:31,31 --> 00:37:37,68 America that. To me that's the traffic the applicant shot implement necessary 434 00:37:37,69 --> 00:37:42,10 traffic safety control structure safe and convenient vehicular access in and around 435 00:37:42,11 --> 00:37:44,47 cite any traffic issues that occur as 436 00:37:44,48 --> 00:37:48,94 a result of site operations and construction shall be mitigated immediately at the 437 00:37:48,95 --> 00:37:53,34 expense of the applicant additional traffic mitigation measures may be required if 438 00:37:53,35 --> 00:37:59,15 necessary or as directed by the planning agent complaints all complaints related to 439 00:37:59,31 --> 00:38:03,93 the above or otherwise shall be logged in tracked by the planing agent complaints. 440 00:38:03,96 --> 00:38:07,42 It will be brought to the attention of the planning board as necessary and the 441 00:38:07,43 --> 00:38:12,69 complaint complaints are found to be repetitive nature and continue with no 442 00:38:12,70 --> 00:38:15,75 medication in the opinion of any board may constitute 443 00:38:15,76 --> 00:38:18,61 a violation of these conditions and may be grounds for a stop order or 444 00:38:18,62 --> 00:38:21,59 a partial stop work. That's 445 00:38:21,60 --> 00:38:27,98 a nuisance section. I the board may revoke this permit for 446 00:38:27,99 --> 00:38:34,75 violations of any terms of this or this I'm sorry. I thought that's your life yes 447 00:38:34,76 --> 00:38:41,73 may. Be just that it yeah. The 448 00:38:41,74 --> 00:38:48,59 boss may revoke his probation for violations of any terms of this permit. That's it 449 00:38:48,60 --> 00:38:55,18 redundant also. For any violations of any terms 450 00:38:55,45 --> 00:39:00,73 provided that it shall offer the applicant and the operator an opportunity for 451 00:39:00,74 --> 00:39:06,02 hearing provided prior to revocation of the permit the board may choose to suspend 452 00:39:06,03 --> 00:39:06,77 this permit without 453 00:39:06,78 --> 00:39:11,61 a hearing in the event of an imminent danger to public health safety or safety 454 00:39:11,96 --> 00:39:13,43 prior to here to 455 00:39:13,44 --> 00:39:19,12 a hearing on whether to revoke the permit Jay burial trash stumps debris on site is 456 00:39:19,13 --> 00:39:25,09 expressly prohibited localized burial of stones in order as is prohibited OK. 457 00:39:26,11 --> 00:39:29,78 A copy of the special permit shall be kept on site at all times and readily 458 00:39:29,79 --> 00:39:34,93 available for planning board representatives to view during any site visit. L. 459 00:39:35,04 --> 00:39:41,23 No advertising material or sign should be placed on the tower. The tower shall have 460 00:39:41,24 --> 00:39:42,40 a finish that is similar to 461 00:39:42,41 --> 00:39:46,10 a white gray or white polluting color as approved by the leading toward the whole 462 00:39:46,11 --> 00:39:52,63 boy. And no definite lighting be on the minimum required by the F.A.A. 463 00:39:52,67 --> 00:39:53,54 Work F.C.C. 464 00:39:53,55 --> 00:40:00,14 Shall be allowed on the power. Or what. This is the one thing running 465 00:40:00,53 --> 00:40:07,29 the POWs somewhere which. Each year anniversary would be in service to the 466 00:40:07,30 --> 00:40:09,74 power of the alphabet for file a report with 467 00:40:09,75 --> 00:40:14,41 a town clerk in the field in the board certifying that the tower does not exceed 468 00:40:14,42 --> 00:40:18,67 the maximum power density for transmissions a lot of the F.C.C. 469 00:40:19,31 --> 00:40:25,66 And any other. Excuse me. Thank you for. 470 00:40:28,92 --> 00:40:34,06 Looking at the new stuff while the recovery I want to draw your attention to I'm 471 00:40:34,39 --> 00:40:38,17 now word says that there's not going to be any signs I thought you might want to 472 00:40:38,18 --> 00:40:43,78 add to that except as required by the town for identification purposes. And that's 473 00:40:43,79 --> 00:40:50,79 not a never present sign and. It would be. Much better to not climb so U.S. 474 00:40:50,80 --> 00:40:54,18 Troops without electrocution have 475 00:40:54,19 --> 00:41:01,12 a. Very. Radio. Listening to 476 00:41:01,13 --> 00:41:08,05 any threats today from the start so what Al then. Not included only. 477 00:41:09,11 --> 00:41:16,06 It's just referred to the tell. The country let me 478 00:41:16,07 --> 00:41:21,52 just finish that sentence brother Oh yes. You do in your ions he was returning from 479 00:41:21,53 --> 00:41:26,48 the front page. About the clerk at the pointy works are fighting 480 00:41:26,49 --> 00:41:30,43 a power does not exceed the maximum power density for transmissions as 481 00:41:30,44 --> 00:41:31,62 a lie by the F.C.C. 482 00:41:31,63 --> 00:41:36,61 And any other political stature. And 483 00:41:36,62 --> 00:41:43,22 a comment. Which one might. No No No It states the applicant shall submit an annual 484 00:41:43,23 --> 00:41:48,44 report shouldn't that be changed to the special permit holder. Which is the up work 485 00:41:48,45 --> 00:41:54,87 of maybe not in the future. It's only the out the afternoon orders as 486 00:41:54,91 --> 00:42:00,89 a side of me. So your concern Mark is if it changes here that you think your third 487 00:42:00,90 --> 00:42:06,09 son the new guy to do the annual report right now so that the new guy does have to 488 00:42:06,10 --> 00:42:09,45 do just the right call your concern is that if they if it's love the way it is they 489 00:42:09,46 --> 00:42:13,75 way they could they feel OK All right my grandkids no longer have all been the 490 00:42:13,76 --> 00:42:19,67 Dodgers I should be really there. That's why I thought the special permit holder. 491 00:42:31,13 --> 00:42:35,95 Yesterday helped start. Talking points. On the part of the. 492 00:42:43,01 --> 00:42:49,07 Ne You know you. Were. Right. That when. 493 00:42:52,11 --> 00:42:55,45 We went through that window and there's no wood fire in the right it's 494 00:42:55,46 --> 00:43:00,92 a world where your frequency which is. All I would expect you. 495 00:43:04,75 --> 00:43:10,11 Adele summersaults qualified individual Yes I mean I know I don't want to have. 496 00:43:12,57 --> 00:43:16,64 This and I'm on my way back to my expert and the other three. 497 00:43:20,54 --> 00:43:25,73 I mean towers we have in town now. You know the current ones doing the annual 498 00:43:25,74 --> 00:43:30,03 reports you know as far as you know. Timely and 499 00:43:30,04 --> 00:43:34,86 a timely manner and I don't recall them from that again. OK. 500 00:43:37,69 --> 00:43:43,85 I'll have to have either changed ownership crummy original Africa now. 501 00:43:48,62 --> 00:43:54,86 OK. Has there been any. Any weakness in the 502 00:43:55,73 --> 00:44:01,02 the paperwork or the special person in the prior to that you think we need to 503 00:44:01,03 --> 00:44:04,43 address is we're working on this language you're pretty happy as this is only 504 00:44:04,44 --> 00:44:11,29 personal to condense so I think as well because we hear that you know I look 505 00:44:11,39 --> 00:44:18,37 like this right. Here But as you think about 506 00:44:18,38 --> 00:44:19,44 the two we currently have 507 00:44:19,45 --> 00:44:24,42 a very problem problems where weaknesses that you see in terms of the paper work 508 00:44:24,79 --> 00:44:30,37 and then you write yeah. We don't you know yeah. 509 00:44:32,67 --> 00:44:38,04 They don't carry us through it you got and we have down now oh well we're just 510 00:44:38,42 --> 00:44:42,35 a little putting each year on there were three of them in service to date of the 511 00:44:42,36 --> 00:44:48,35 power and that followed for without work planning for the building for the fire 512 00:44:48,82 --> 00:44:53,57 wall and the goal. In the field itself our. 513 00:44:54,96 --> 00:45:01,93 Communications. Certify that the power does not seem to. 514 00:45:01,96 --> 00:45:05,29 Maximum power density for true Christians as allowed by the F.C.C. 515 00:45:05,33 --> 00:45:09,89 And any other book from the staff you're going to be the permit holder will not 516 00:45:09,90 --> 00:45:16,64 only have. A special term for. The very beginning of 517 00:45:17,31 --> 00:45:21,53 it yeah they were injured Yeah OK so if you change all of those to special. 518 00:45:33,94 --> 00:45:40,40 You feel different if you have the feet to within thirty days of the issuance of 519 00:45:40,41 --> 00:45:46,05 the final bit of occupancy certification by the manufacturer or internet for via 520 00:45:46,06 --> 00:45:50,15 masters of words for its book registered structural engineer shall be filed by the 521 00:45:50,16 --> 00:45:55,09 applicant indicating tower height its own structure is fallacious and totally 522 00:45:55,10 --> 00:45:59,73 anticipated pasty of the structure who number and type of intent is which could be 523 00:45:59,74 --> 00:46:04,34 accommodated demonstrating to the satisfaction of building commissioner that all 524 00:46:04,35 --> 00:46:08,04 structural requirements and other safety considerations set forth in the building 525 00:46:08,05 --> 00:46:14,56 code have been met and. They don't come in. Here and kill the 526 00:46:14,57 --> 00:46:21,47 enemy money they can do in that fire. Or is that their new 527 00:46:22,11 --> 00:46:28,77 company is going to do use of the issue I'd rather do before. So because 528 00:46:29,03 --> 00:46:34,62 of no structural reform with the building that. You'll have that if you want to see 529 00:46:34,63 --> 00:46:40,87 for occupancy that I think once it's done I would like an engineer report like 530 00:46:40,91 --> 00:46:43,19 crazy to hear how construction 531 00:46:43,20 --> 00:46:48,45 a troll affidavit right so makes us give those affidavits before we issue the right 532 00:46:48,62 --> 00:46:55,46 yes. So how would you like to cite you know I mean do you want to tax the 533 00:46:55,47 --> 00:46:59,82 whole thing I mean it's really I think the intent of that was to get in as built 534 00:47:00,56 --> 00:47:07,16 have sound good. You know we would do you know I'm actually building that. Because 535 00:47:07,17 --> 00:47:12,06 it is sort of it's all. Like they were Yeah like if we're going to put this in here 536 00:47:12,07 --> 00:47:16,59 we just kind of tell them it's OK and not give it to me when I get here why can't 537 00:47:16,60 --> 00:47:19,02 we just let it go handle this super office as 538 00:47:19,03 --> 00:47:23,69 a building permit business and not really play anymore special from. So delete Pete 539 00:47:23,73 --> 00:47:30,20 altogether Yeah I don't Adele's not going to give them the occupancy permit but she 540 00:47:30,21 --> 00:47:36,03 has that as built type whatever it. Is that are able to you know kind of use it 541 00:47:36,04 --> 00:47:41,51 that's business as usual you guys right. Look here everybody then it's OK you would 542 00:47:41,52 --> 00:47:46,23 know this time I just don't want to be discrepancies between what you guys are 543 00:47:46,24 --> 00:47:51,08 saying to you and what I would be like That's really right so we'll just scratch 544 00:47:51,09 --> 00:47:55,68 anything out I mean if you will be if you do anyway right you're right by the 545 00:47:55,69 --> 00:48:02,28 normal standard and the only. Evidence for your first cue to 546 00:48:02,29 --> 00:48:08,85 do which is no take that which is now. Going to those are the 547 00:48:08,98 --> 00:48:10,07 government is valid for 548 00:48:10,08 --> 00:48:14,05 a period of two years from the data Vishwas operation you know the state will 549 00:48:14,06 --> 00:48:20,89 require subsequent special. Discussion. With you 550 00:48:20,90 --> 00:48:25,66 just really have the floor. I don't see why again after two years and it's up and 551 00:48:25,67 --> 00:48:29,39 running and everything to this implies you would have to go back to apply for 552 00:48:29,40 --> 00:48:35,87 a special permit I go to the hearing everything right this week. And 553 00:48:36,75 --> 00:48:41,83 we have the annual report coming in I don't I just don't for this type of operation 554 00:48:41,83 --> 00:48:48,77 . The cell tower sits there and does its thing and that's the bylaws. By law when 555 00:48:48,78 --> 00:48:55,44 it's. Two years. What was the reasoning behind it no idea it was drafted before I 556 00:48:55,45 --> 00:49:01,95 was here. So it doesn't really have to be condition 557 00:49:02,73 --> 00:49:09,61 it doesn't it's just making it clear. To others hurt to sell flowers are they under 558 00:49:09,62 --> 00:49:13,97 special permit. Two G.B. 559 00:49:14,03 --> 00:49:17,73 They were the very good of the brigade you know your grandfather What are they are 560 00:49:17,74 --> 00:49:24,18 they doing. Anything every two years no not every day you know. You know just 561 00:49:24,19 --> 00:49:28,56 reports. We write what you have to do. 562 00:49:32,20 --> 00:49:37,73 Not to. Go where is it in there's only is it at the table or is it out of tax notes 563 00:49:37,74 --> 00:49:43,64 of the test you have. Got to go. And you read it Stephen it. 564 00:49:48,66 --> 00:49:55,30 Was just in journals or just just continue to hold office. But she will come to 565 00:49:55,31 --> 00:50:01,17 other stuff permits. Through the boilerplate two years for everything you should 566 00:50:01,96 --> 00:50:04,26 really know sensory upon to three. 567 00:50:34,96 --> 00:50:41,01 I'm. Sure you want to can come back to that would. Be good suppose. 568 00:50:43,29 --> 00:50:49,32 You caused if I did ever. Shortening here that you know you're right I'm. 569 00:50:51,99 --> 00:50:56,59 Guilty of an experience and I read it. Very. 570 00:51:06,58 --> 00:51:07,01 Clearly not 571 00:51:07,02 --> 00:51:12,37 a lot of them yet under six five seven six point five zero. If Win seven term 572 00:51:12,90 --> 00:51:17,73 special permits authorized under section shall be limited to an initial term of two 573 00:51:17,74 --> 00:51:23,07 years and shall be renewed every two years thereafter provided the special permit 574 00:51:23,08 --> 00:51:28,90 holder has filed with the board will surface. Demonstrating continuing compliance 575 00:51:28,91 --> 00:51:32,46 with this session with the special permit and without local federal or state 576 00:51:32,50 --> 00:51:39,41 regulatory requirements so it shall be renewed. What do we 577 00:51:39,42 --> 00:51:44,16 do with the excess very we just we don't really really know really areas we don't 578 00:51:44,17 --> 00:51:47,13 go through the whole permanent process that we do or you know maybe just because. 579 00:51:48,64 --> 00:51:55,13 If they fly. Then it's worse. So I'm not sure that says 580 00:51:55,14 --> 00:52:00,61 a new spec you have to go through the whole process. To get his refusal permits 581 00:52:00,62 --> 00:52:06,31 authorizer the session shall be limited to it initial term of two years to an 582 00:52:06,32 --> 00:52:11,90 initial term of two years and Shavar who EVERY and shall be renewed. 583 00:52:13,05 --> 00:52:19,34 Shall be renewed. Maybe. It shall be renewed every two years thereafter 584 00:52:19,41 --> 00:52:20,06 provided 585 00:52:20,07 --> 00:52:25,50 a special permit holder as filed with the board the N O one for starters so it's 586 00:52:25,51 --> 00:52:25,68 not 587 00:52:25,69 --> 00:52:30,12 a whole. I don't believe it says nothing going on that's not one hundred knots it 588 00:52:30,13 --> 00:52:31,78 doesn't say and shall apply for 589 00:52:31,79 --> 00:52:35,89 a new special per interview tonight it does not say but we do have to issue 590 00:52:36,39 --> 00:52:40,00 a new flag like unlike the Excel two thousand years or the date of the issuance 591 00:52:40,19 --> 00:52:44,95 that's. We would have the board member view it and if the annual reports been 592 00:52:44,96 --> 00:52:46,41 submitted to the town or to play 593 00:52:46,42 --> 00:52:50,73 a board as required setter at the end of the inspector and he and the building. 594 00:52:52,86 --> 00:52:59,07 Then the early and we would know what shall be written relied on has already formed 595 00:52:59,08 --> 00:53:05,05 one of food and then we call Mr Wilson or his assignee and put him up please. 596 00:53:06,19 --> 00:53:13,07 It's up to. You or Senate Dell is really something that's worth it because 597 00:53:13,59 --> 00:53:19,86 I did it once and I thought it was I would. Not play. 598 00:53:21,08 --> 00:53:26,41 So we really don't even need Q Because it's already in the. I think you better put 599 00:53:26,42 --> 00:53:32,01 it in there just your right here just. Holds it so he said something like no other 600 00:53:32,02 --> 00:53:37,10 Surprise Valley I've heard here I would not suggest that they are made of all the 601 00:53:37,11 --> 00:53:43,10 Shelby permit to use I would refer to it by the section number the special permit 602 00:53:43,11 --> 00:53:47,84 is limited to. Rule requirements. 603 00:53:52,41 --> 00:53:56,81 You know what I did stipulate in search of Section six five seven number one and 604 00:53:56,82 --> 00:54:03,75 two six point five point seven want to just reference the vital. Right. 605 00:54:05,37 --> 00:54:09,52 Thank you. That's fine OK. 606 00:54:14,65 --> 00:54:21,33 So formally are just the next oh yes Adele I guess just to clarify I'm not so 607 00:54:21,37 --> 00:54:27,03 sick but kind of like is your heart beat still have might be born with that when 608 00:54:27,04 --> 00:54:29,47 you all are looking at it we just it is 609 00:54:29,48 --> 00:54:36,02 a. Good question. You know so I can kind of like the only thing you're going to be 610 00:54:36,03 --> 00:54:41,91 some kind. Of the case for you when you go I think that's what my view is that they 611 00:54:41,92 --> 00:54:48,57 don't have to come before us if they do it on time that it. Shall be renewed right 612 00:54:48,58 --> 00:54:50,14 now we know the same thing when you first read 613 00:54:50,15 --> 00:54:54,80 a part of your memory if they do what memory are right they don't have to come yet 614 00:54:54,81 --> 00:54:59,67 once we have guys you still have to insult me send you something I'm going to I 615 00:54:59,68 --> 00:55:06,19 guess what it should be dark and. Yeah yeah yeah the title hearing or anything but 616 00:55:06,20 --> 00:55:09,80 at least some kind of it will be an agenda item for us to guess that we have to 617 00:55:09,81 --> 00:55:15,82 vote on it we would rely on our staff for it right and we'd have all the stuff etc 618 00:55:15,86 --> 00:55:21,41 but it would be an agenda item for us right is your whole hearing or you. Might 619 00:55:21,73 --> 00:55:24,43 just. Sense we have such 620 00:55:24,44 --> 00:55:28,46 a crack playing forty eight hours he's going to make sure that it's on our agenda 621 00:55:28,47 --> 00:55:28,56 in 622 00:55:28,57 --> 00:55:35,97 a timely manner every other year as well. Rice even. Well 623 00:55:36,52 --> 00:55:43,16 with regret. With the. You know partment. We 624 00:55:43,17 --> 00:55:43,79 usually have 625 00:55:43,80 --> 00:55:48,19 a tickler file of those if they somehow forget and we sent every minute of you know 626 00:55:48,20 --> 00:55:52,58 Christ OK So that was that in this case if they forget we would send them saying 627 00:55:52,59 --> 00:55:58,11 hey guys you forgot to file for your rebuttal and then of course the letter would 628 00:55:58,12 --> 00:56:04,69 come back from. Ne wireless or whoever. And say we are here by 629 00:56:05,04 --> 00:56:06,24 requesting renewal booked 630 00:56:06,25 --> 00:56:15,42 a special permit. And cetera right and. OK 631 00:56:15,87 --> 00:56:22,84 everybody good with. What was Q. One. Q Is 632 00:56:22,85 --> 00:56:28,25 now changed is what Billy you know pardon me like these that can make stuff. 633 00:56:29,64 --> 00:56:36,62 OK Bill OK please Hugh formally known as our. Police Fire and 634 00:56:36,63 --> 00:56:42,54 Rescue. Shall have access to code like locate should. 635 00:56:43,86 --> 00:56:48,46 Have access to code located on the tower if they request to do so future. 636 00:56:50,70 --> 00:56:56,79 Are intended arrays added to the tower after the initial start of Operation shall 637 00:56:56,80 --> 00:57:03,45 require planning board authorization. The wording that is a national permit 638 00:57:03,46 --> 00:57:10,31 a lot of so many antenna. This is about five and they can make five 639 00:57:10,32 --> 00:57:16,09 on one time. So if they put on too late. 640 00:57:17,30 --> 00:57:19,71 Can they just go ahead and go is 641 00:57:19,72 --> 00:57:25,42 a max without Well I think I think the way it goes is lets say they build it and 642 00:57:25,43 --> 00:57:30,46 there's two up there then two years down the road they want to add two I think they 643 00:57:30,47 --> 00:57:31,49 come back and send 644 00:57:31,50 --> 00:57:38,02 a letter and like. Is it yours or the other one we had recently 645 00:57:38,42 --> 00:57:41,91 the other one is I think the other one I don't think it's any anything new I'm 646 00:57:41,92 --> 00:57:48,74 trying. We have we have police fire and I way on ours 647 00:57:49,45 --> 00:57:54,27 already there are limits Video number of antennas they appear in the car anyway 648 00:57:55,25 --> 00:58:01,29 five is the max so sexism. Whatever you design the tower for right now we're going 649 00:58:01,30 --> 00:58:08,06 to provide. The put up too and most likely most likely I would be three 650 00:58:08,07 --> 00:58:12,75 anyway and but would they need to come back to the board to add the three if the 651 00:58:12,76 --> 00:58:17,77 firm is allowed I don't know if I have the authorization I don't see why not 652 00:58:17,78 --> 00:58:23,77 withstanding what I'm sure Roy is about to say but. You guys are seeing cell towers 653 00:58:23,78 --> 00:58:25,53 all over the place and they're just another or 654 00:58:25,54 --> 00:58:28,47 a one two three four five you want to have 655 00:58:28,48 --> 00:58:34,57 a city and scratch our heads and say. Well we want to have more arrays on 656 00:58:34,58 --> 00:58:41,50 a single tower if it means less towers and what up. Yeah. But I 657 00:58:41,51 --> 00:58:46,12 wonder authorization just the right word for that one yeah what about that I don't 658 00:58:46,13 --> 00:58:52,21 know notification but it doesn't say that I mean approval. But if you did notify 659 00:58:52,26 --> 00:58:52,48 that 660 00:58:53,16 --> 00:58:59,62 a little less under us. I mean we're proving this for the five the Internet 661 00:59:00,06 --> 00:59:01,56 right that's were probably about 662 00:59:01,57 --> 00:59:05,95 a maximum so I don't know see what they wish it stretches all to do I don't see 663 00:59:05,96 --> 00:59:11,33 what use it serving actually. The time was only could handle five and then we 664 00:59:11,34 --> 00:59:16,13 already approved of the five so we will be approving up to five so you would 665 00:59:16,14 --> 00:59:16,58 anybody have 666 00:59:16,59 --> 00:59:23,50 a problem if we just eliminated our which was yes. I 667 00:59:23,51 --> 00:59:26,55 have no problem because because the permit allows five I just let them do their 668 00:59:26,56 --> 00:59:31,30 build out as they're so moved. So to leave everybody you know we just have notified 669 00:59:31,31 --> 00:59:34,87 us and we know what we know when the annual report every year if they had added 670 00:59:34,88 --> 00:59:40,04 anything to it right when they get to the max and I want to assure you that is 671 00:59:40,05 --> 00:59:43,06 a constant after the initial construction is going to have to go through the 672 00:59:43,07 --> 00:59:48,70 building permit process and provide structural sort of conditions etc So it's not 673 00:59:48,71 --> 00:59:52,96 as if this is going to happen outside of the town anything to get built I don't 674 00:59:52,97 --> 00:59:56,38 want to still have to go through zone you force me off you know just like the full 675 00:59:56,39 --> 01:00:01,84 blast we did waited till to have it done without. Three lemonade everybody thought 676 01:00:01,85 --> 01:00:07,97 it was just. I tell keeper files and perhaps let the planning board know what for 677 01:00:08,25 --> 01:00:12,61 dinosaurs to keep its files up to date then when Americans. We have 678 01:00:12,62 --> 01:00:18,68 a crack in your interoffice community I'm really going to tell you. It's called 679 01:00:18,69 --> 01:00:25,28 lateral and I think if you take ten yes. It are the forms and reports that they 680 01:00:25,29 --> 01:00:30,68 file at the end of each year you can even identify that there's additional arrays 681 01:00:31,06 --> 01:00:38,02 added. On the list. What's the content of those four and what 682 01:00:38,03 --> 01:00:42,43 is the content of those forms of ocean blue that it will there will be measured 683 01:00:42,44 --> 01:00:48,22 field measurements actually taken and the density of calculations will still 684 01:00:48,23 --> 01:00:53,16 increase the surface or certain density calculation for each set of antenna over is 685 01:00:53,77 --> 01:00:57,48 certifying the document total is less than what the F.C.C. 686 01:00:57,53 --> 01:00:58,45 After you see 687 01:00:58,46 --> 01:01:05,31 a lot. So yes it will show that there is no power coming out of antenna Rays 688 01:01:05,87 --> 01:01:12,10 who get generator running so if you you are your successor as it intended that 689 01:01:12,11 --> 01:01:14,31 would show up in a report because you have 690 01:01:14,32 --> 01:01:20,62 a greater. Force so I speak right. Thank you for. 691 01:01:22,19 --> 01:01:23,10 That answer 692 01:01:23,11 --> 01:01:27,56 a question mark I guess you know because you want to add in the old which is the an 693 01:01:27,57 --> 01:01:33,11 old Forth which is based on like. They provided just in the person that clued in 694 01:01:33,12 --> 01:01:38,08 any. Transmitters. Any additional. 695 01:01:41,66 --> 01:01:46,40 I don't know the board. I mean it seems to me if they would show that anyway if 696 01:01:46,41 --> 01:01:50,28 they have been told they have to show the maximum power that power gets in the 697 01:01:50,29 --> 01:01:55,02 transmission and obviously if it's doubled. One would suspect here they cranked up 698 01:01:55,03 --> 01:02:01,26 the original disk or added another eight. Anybody feel strongly about that one with 699 01:02:01,27 --> 01:02:05,00 the other I don't know what could they do what they want to see but where but the 700 01:02:05,01 --> 01:02:11,48 tower when we've given him permission to do it. Right so we'll just eliminate what 701 01:02:11,49 --> 01:02:18,19 was asked became and then assume. The i Report And are you telling me that 702 01:02:18,20 --> 01:02:22,69 a course from Officer that will hold up. Will have the information we need on 703 01:02:22,70 --> 01:02:24,02 a regular basis so the T.V. 704 01:02:24,03 --> 01:02:28,38 Comes our understanding right now the last one that was just one I think we covered 705 01:02:28,38 --> 01:02:35,31 . Yes. Q. Or which is no P I think. 706 01:02:36,81 --> 01:02:42,07 We said the special permit is going to redo requirements as to Section six five 707 01:02:42,08 --> 01:02:47,64 seven one and you see you just number two right this is the one about removing the 708 01:02:47,68 --> 01:02:49,80 component and it surely will be provided 709 01:02:49,81 --> 01:02:56,50 a sort of who would do the removing. The Alpha because he's going. 710 01:02:57,57 --> 01:03:00,52 Yes he would be the holder of the special for 711 01:03:00,53 --> 01:03:07,41 a minute then. You couple that to finally be done in the. Right any comments or 712 01:03:07,42 --> 01:03:12,34 questions you're welcome you're sure you're limited in that he would just now are. 713 01:03:14,56 --> 01:03:21,47 We were eliminated antenna raise ad. And yeah I asked him about the last he was 714 01:03:21,48 --> 01:03:26,93 there to your god yeah I know you have a license or your OK OK OK but there's 715 01:03:26,94 --> 01:03:29,63 a differential I want me to question it for a second go ahead there's 716 01:03:29,64 --> 01:03:33,29 a differential between Q. And T. 717 01:03:33,92 --> 01:03:35,87 The typewritten he would think he's because that's 718 01:03:35,88 --> 01:03:41,66 a two years in This Is It and it's been abandoned for only one year. Well I would 719 01:03:41,67 --> 01:03:44,93 like if it's been like you get a permit runs out if it's abandoned for more than 720 01:03:44,94 --> 01:03:48,99 a year you have to prove it runs out and it's going to take over or if they just 721 01:03:49,00 --> 01:03:55,37 cease operating you're right. So then in actuality they could actually go for two 722 01:03:55,38 --> 01:03:59,12 years that we wouldn't even know about unless they can make sure and they're going 723 01:03:59,13 --> 01:04:02,33 to come in here to here. For 724 01:04:02,34 --> 01:04:07,89 a well probably two years because we feel we've you know to notice that they 725 01:04:07,90 --> 01:04:14,80 haven't submitted their real report. And. Say what's going on. OK 726 01:04:15,33 --> 01:04:22,10 why is because again it was just to be you were referring to Section six point five 727 01:04:22,99 --> 01:04:23,47 which is 728 01:04:23,48 --> 01:04:30,18 a want you to now go one talks about the renewal every two years 729 01:04:30,35 --> 01:04:35,17 now right you talked about the town not being in the Atlantic OK so what is his 730 01:04:35,18 --> 01:04:41,05 actions and his Action Network OK referring to the people. That of course set up. 731 01:04:43,04 --> 01:04:49,17 OK Thank you. Anybody else I'm up to the special conditions do you got Steve 732 01:04:49,86 --> 01:04:56,75 clearly this is the special program or you know of the you know. So there you have 733 01:04:56,76 --> 01:05:01,95 sort of is it right the way you know one of the you know. I did wrong in the 734 01:05:01,96 --> 01:05:08,95 function the Northeast wireless service and operations because you know for me. 735 01:05:10,51 --> 01:05:15,91 I think that they're all involved they're on the call so I don't want to overdo it 736 01:05:15,92 --> 01:05:22,59 falls back on. A special permit I would think which is awesome oh 737 01:05:23,06 --> 01:05:27,38 you know the Northeast Well you know like you know which is. Never going to visit 738 01:05:27,39 --> 01:05:30,36 special many of us not right when you have the real chance for 739 01:05:30,37 --> 01:05:37,30 a special permit you know you know when. You know yes. Because they're 740 01:05:37,31 --> 01:05:42,03 going to have a lease with a land owner that Lee. Yes could be 741 01:05:42,04 --> 01:05:47,49 a subcontractor. Or something whatever they could be at least for ten years give it 742 01:05:47,50 --> 01:05:52,49 literally have its role in this making sure that it's you know the bill and. 743 01:05:55,18 --> 01:06:01,42 The not the only reason these are all right. You know so I thought might be that's 744 01:06:01,43 --> 01:06:05,46 what I mean I like variance maybe condition by limiting its duration to determine 745 01:06:05,55 --> 01:06:11,63 ownership or use by you. Is just 746 01:06:11,64 --> 01:06:16,62 a. Right anybody else up to special get it. 747 01:06:19,32 --> 01:06:22,04 OK And the special commissions to eat you have surety is 748 01:06:22,05 --> 01:06:25,71 a question mark well well above that I put in 749 01:06:26,21 --> 01:06:32,77 a couple of conditions that were proposed. But I want to go through those sort of 750 01:06:32,78 --> 01:06:36,96 white pine trees are to be planted I was going to say and maintained. 751 01:06:39,92 --> 01:06:40,11 On 752 01:06:40,12 --> 01:06:47,15 a suitable spacing of the Seas ten feet of water on the side of the Smith on the West 753 01:06:47,16 --> 01:06:53,66 Hartford road side. Right I gather. So I can't remember how many trees are you 754 01:06:53,67 --> 01:06:58,51 planted taken down altogether would you say. You remember six OK. 755 01:07:01,23 --> 01:07:05,26 All right questions are number one anybody but I mean we want to be more specific 756 01:07:05,27 --> 01:07:10,30 on the size of the tree. But I have 757 01:07:10,31 --> 01:07:15,68 a question. Well let's. You know as for any. 758 01:07:17,86 --> 01:07:21,51 Six foot. Minimum that was really 759 01:07:21,52 --> 01:07:28,47 a yard I guess. Yes that's my desire yes what do you think I think six foot 760 01:07:28,48 --> 01:07:33,42 tall and. Spacing of how one more on that side. 761 01:07:35,44 --> 01:07:41,98 I was thinking about the length of that side down to before. Like that OK in D.C. 762 01:07:42,89 --> 01:07:43,54 Ten trees. 763 01:07:50,39 --> 01:07:55,17 A muddy else on the moon while I think that you know them I love the fact that can 764 01:07:55,18 --> 01:07:55,35 give 765 01:07:55,36 --> 01:08:04,11 a question and. Put in place around the it doesn't pertain to the. Buffer 766 01:08:04,12 --> 01:08:07,03 around the enclosure itself. Since 767 01:08:07,04 --> 01:08:11,48 a landscape buffer Yeah this is actually going to be where you're planning is to 768 01:08:11,49 --> 01:08:12,75 fill the gap right there's 769 01:08:12,76 --> 01:08:17,73 a gap between the naturally occurring white pine that are mature trees right now I 770 01:08:17,74 --> 01:08:22,74 think it clearing to the edge of the education mind so that there's going to be an 771 01:08:22,75 --> 01:08:27,28 opening open view from the road going to are you going to maintain those existing 772 01:08:27,29 --> 01:08:32,61 White Plains or as much as possible you know we're not going to come in when we 773 01:08:32,62 --> 01:08:33,81 have to we have to with 774 01:08:33,82 --> 01:08:39,43 a seventy by seventy fence there and well Derby still though even would. I thought 775 01:08:39,44 --> 01:08:43,73 that line of pine was going to pretty much stay there will have been my contention 776 01:08:43,74 --> 01:08:48,07 all along but you know what I've also stated all along that if the board feels 777 01:08:48,08 --> 01:08:54,86 additional vegetation is necessary that we provide. I just 778 01:08:55,32 --> 01:08:59,96 I thought I thought that if that original line appliances that time were going to 779 01:08:59,97 --> 01:09:06,33 be behind those and if you drove it by there. It's not not if you look at the plan 780 01:09:06,34 --> 01:09:11,68 and don't think it is. Right I thought it was. Because there is again I don't know 781 01:09:11,69 --> 01:09:18,36 if we are plant shows the squiggly line which will designate the edge of the 782 01:09:18,83 --> 01:09:24,58 cover. The edge of the tree line the tree edge doesn't show us where the individual 783 01:09:24,59 --> 01:09:29,92 pine trees are I just don't think it just shows where the edge of the canopy is and 784 01:09:29,93 --> 01:09:30,35 that edge 785 01:09:30,36 --> 01:09:35,53 a canopy is just outside of his easement lines on the hunt for the road side so 786 01:09:35,54 --> 01:09:39,53 that would mean that the trees are within one hundred forty S. 787 01:09:40,11 --> 01:09:45,46 And therefore made maybe I'm not positive either there might be trees left but they 788 01:09:45,47 --> 01:09:52,16 may be taken back to where exactly here's here's Hartford right. And and the 789 01:09:52,80 --> 01:09:56,24 parking area and stuff for the flea market in the barn or like over here and 790 01:09:56,25 --> 01:09:57,47 everything and there is 791 01:09:57,48 --> 01:10:01,19 a gap here there's some trees and other stuff here and then there's this the 792 01:10:01,20 --> 01:10:02,42 natural trees here there's 793 01:10:02,43 --> 01:10:09,16 a gap where were you thinking of well the trees do that. Those trees are 794 01:10:09,17 --> 01:10:09,70 kind of in 795 01:10:09,71 --> 01:10:14,84 a line this way and then they come back of this way right here and you saw it with 796 01:10:14,85 --> 01:10:19,86 the trees on the usually clearing to create that hundred metre clearing that this 797 01:10:19,87 --> 01:10:23,94 behind is going to end up with an opening here OK So you're saying right now I'm 798 01:10:23,95 --> 01:10:28,49 writing right here OK how about over here no I'm talking about right here that only 799 01:10:28,50 --> 01:10:32,11 thing that we can require That's what I will write and I was in 800 01:10:32,12 --> 01:10:34,30 a great sense because I know there wasn't 801 01:10:34,31 --> 01:10:37,61 a butterly here that says you know if we look like here we might see through this 802 01:10:37,62 --> 01:10:41,61 gap to the sink and I think you're trying to fill all this and I was not for that 803 01:10:41,93 --> 01:10:47,29 a natural part for plantings even around the whole thing you know but right in 804 01:10:47,30 --> 01:10:51,78 front yes that's OK because I didn't want to live it you don't know what future use 805 01:10:52,14 --> 01:10:54,53 that could sometimes be a duck to 806 01:10:54,54 --> 01:10:58,79 a park in the future an industrial zone for fortunes or something it has some trees 807 01:10:58,80 --> 01:10:59,93 here that were protected by 808 01:10:59,94 --> 01:11:03,44 a special purpose of this and I say that's the perfect place to have 809 01:11:03,45 --> 01:11:08,03 a few I did want to get one of those one only directly adjacent to the fence I 810 01:11:08,04 --> 01:11:12,81 think is the only thing that we can require the center along side of the site and 811 01:11:12,97 --> 01:11:19,53 running. Which is that square feed you have some say Well presumably good tenants 812 01:11:19,54 --> 01:11:23,79 and. Which were the board of the blue to go after the construction for so many 813 01:11:23,87 --> 01:11:28,18 years that it would strays from those things we're really trying to join us right. 814 01:11:30,47 --> 01:11:34,91 Now on the run out the measures that will go out going yes I think you somewhere 815 01:11:34,92 --> 01:11:40,09 where we can expect that. When I ask for. You. 816 01:11:42,19 --> 01:11:43,68 Are you ready also number one is 817 01:11:43,69 --> 01:11:48,33 a special edition carry they understand where these might be planted Yes So we're 818 01:11:48,34 --> 01:11:52,24 talking ten trees ten ten feet apart for about one hundred feet right in question 819 01:11:52,25 --> 01:11:59,17 on that oh well I just hope that's what song. And like last summer if 820 01:11:59,84 --> 01:12:05,60 you don't specify one when. I think. You're going to. 821 01:12:07,95 --> 01:12:12,35 Specify to one thing I have to replace tell you more take that out take one of the 822 01:12:12,36 --> 01:12:14,70 public lands and it's going to be hard to keep six motors 823 01:12:14,71 --> 01:12:18,77 a lot of. What you need sometimes you really need 824 01:12:19,20 --> 01:12:23,96 a civic you know the Constitution you know was also the point is that everybody can 825 01:12:23,97 --> 01:12:30,10 look right. OK. OK but he also had one. 826 01:12:31,43 --> 01:12:36,88 Number to contact information must be publicly accessible and not just to the folks 827 01:12:36,88 --> 01:12:43,82 . That need something in the office here that people could. See if there was an 828 01:12:43,83 --> 01:12:46,29 absentee voter who said who do I call if I've got 829 01:12:46,30 --> 01:12:51,23 a good way to get her concern right I noted it should be corporate phone number 830 01:12:51,24 --> 01:12:55,30 people can call it health issues should arise and people want should include as 831 01:12:55,31 --> 01:13:00,56 a condition that was my notes from them about every. So that be in the office and. 832 01:13:01,78 --> 01:13:08,61 You're going to be there with the file as we get notified. OK. Right embody 833 01:13:08,62 --> 01:13:15,20 also special conditions and thank you. Discussions with the public here in. 834 01:13:18,10 --> 01:13:22,51 The back of the General I'm going to put it conditional in their five posting the 835 01:13:22,52 --> 01:13:29,39 first contact of the race. To the. Right house that 836 01:13:29,40 --> 01:13:32,41 posted usually what kind of thing to do has 837 01:13:32,42 --> 01:13:37,76 a case of emergency hundred number I mean is it painted. Like 838 01:13:37,77 --> 01:13:41,03 a parking sign. Good it's 839 01:13:41,04 --> 01:13:46,40 a Navajo something or whatever why did no you know sorry. It's an emergency please 840 01:13:46,41 --> 01:13:49,90 call for foreigners why would you like to call this 841 01:13:49,91 --> 01:13:56,77 a prison colony I would guess OK any more come in the wording for the stuff of 842 01:13:56,78 --> 01:14:00,34 propriety everything else of course you know at this point what would you know 843 01:14:00,35 --> 01:14:07,04 about the surety. I was just asking the question do we want to come up with some 844 01:14:07,05 --> 01:14:13,43 value with surety maybe to cover the in the event of the Never Whitely of it that 845 01:14:14,25 --> 01:14:14,80 you know it's 846 01:14:14,81 --> 01:14:21,71 a variant in for period of the Year award and. It doesn't you know. That's the only 847 01:14:21,72 --> 01:14:27,69 instance of surety I can think of. I think that's important how would you say that 848 01:14:27,70 --> 01:14:31,47 a. Good question you have to research or doubt you have 849 01:14:31,48 --> 01:14:38,47 a vision and then you can just check it. Sorry you know 850 01:14:38,48 --> 01:14:45,03 I. Didn't say it right but of course you bet your lease 851 01:14:45,07 --> 01:14:49,56 agreement with the land owner. Would this what would you have 852 01:14:49,57 --> 01:14:53,52 a miracle was like those that in the in the event that you abandon that you show 853 01:14:53,53 --> 01:14:58,77 remove said them from the property of your focal and return the land to as far as 854 01:14:58,78 --> 01:15:02,95 Foster was original condition that is and the reason that was supplied with it was 855 01:15:02,96 --> 01:15:07,59 a lot of patients with the death of the lease and you will be current insurance 856 01:15:07,60 --> 01:15:14,18 policy on this for probably up to about one million bucks yes. So I know there is 857 01:15:14,19 --> 01:15:18,13 that tier protection there certainly the landowners want to you to lend or 858 01:15:18,14 --> 01:15:19,96 protection is right that should 859 01:15:19,97 --> 01:15:26,81 a bad and or what have you. He's holding the ticket there as well but still 860 01:15:27,01 --> 01:15:31,81 would wheel something in the know and like anything to do requiring charity even 861 01:15:31,82 --> 01:15:38,65 though the landowner is responsible. You know the account looking. Ahead to 862 01:15:38,66 --> 01:15:44,58 Mexico Linda was responsible but we need surety in the insurance policy. 863 01:15:45,95 --> 01:15:48,12 That we cover somehow with this that in the event there's 864 01:15:48,13 --> 01:15:54,71 a bad in that the. Town could be named No that policy. Is your only insurance the 865 01:15:54,72 --> 01:15:57,72 only thing in the extent of your interest is where the town is not 866 01:15:57,99 --> 01:16:03,02 a land on or lease of the or you wouldn't have any interest OK but I mean income to 867 01:16:03,03 --> 01:16:03,23 move 868 01:16:03,24 --> 01:16:07,27 a bond is not unreasonable that the removal cost is about seven thousand dollars 869 01:16:07,28 --> 01:16:12,03 with construction. As the price of the steel goes up you know you'll have 870 01:16:12,04 --> 01:16:17,27 a lot more people interested because the price of those towers on the roof is still 871 01:16:17,28 --> 01:16:20,27 goes up and thousand dollars is a good estimate 872 01:16:20,46 --> 01:16:27,31 a little more cost and you know that no permit holder fails to remove 873 01:16:28,16 --> 01:16:34,32 the tower is required here in the. National provisional post 874 01:16:34,33 --> 01:16:40,55 a ten thousand dollars bond surety on which. Sure removal rushing 875 01:16:41,18 --> 01:16:46,12 over to remove. Your answer. 876 01:16:48,42 --> 01:16:49,51 So we have 877 01:16:49,52 --> 01:16:55,51 a dish your can we just require. We usually. Posted. 878 01:16:57,03 --> 01:17:02,15 Part of it with help for sure water storage locker room with 879 01:17:02,89 --> 01:17:07,44 a book like that. With fifteen thousand be 880 01:17:07,45 --> 01:17:11,27 a safe room only in places. That. 881 01:17:14,92 --> 01:17:20,79 We want to go with him well the ten might be just remove the tower there might be 882 01:17:20,80 --> 01:17:26,51 other site work and my theory requires it we just put that in there. And we just 883 01:17:26,52 --> 01:17:31,83 look at the condition right now we have built we do some research on it. Six five 884 01:17:31,84 --> 01:17:38,67 seven. And once we're very excited at the it says in part in part the 885 01:17:38,68 --> 01:17:39,92 permit holder shall post 886 01:17:39,93 --> 01:17:44,10 a bond or other financial security with the town treasurer you know the amount 887 01:17:44,11 --> 01:17:47,73 deemed sufficient to cover demolition of removal of Peter U.S. 888 01:17:47,74 --> 01:17:54,51 Facilities in the event of discontinuance of use. So that's 889 01:17:54,52 --> 01:17:58,53 covered in the law that's right from the law. It's just 890 01:17:58,54 --> 01:18:01,28 a matter of how much to say to the Treasury. 891 01:18:05,55 --> 01:18:10,19 We have to have it here if it's part of the bylaws of that. Point we do have other 892 01:18:10,20 --> 01:18:11,71 things in here that they're not but 893 01:18:11,72 --> 01:18:15,43 a reference ends with if that's what form or the word was in there with you know 894 01:18:15,53 --> 01:18:19,78 thirty years whatever but what would be the amount that's the question the hood of 895 01:18:19,79 --> 01:18:26,10 my mind I will know. You want to get it why don't the price really gets good for 896 01:18:26,11 --> 01:18:31,26 scrap and you know all right so you know it's going to miss me what he's got right 897 01:18:31,45 --> 01:18:36,46 now but we don't have to figure that out tonight you know OK. Because it's just 898 01:18:36,47 --> 01:18:41,25 a word you know. After for the span of all he said and then the next meeting was so 899 01:18:41,26 --> 01:18:48,24 lame or why don't we start. Tonight and fill in the gaps after the 900 01:18:48,25 --> 01:18:49,21 page number was 901 01:18:49,37 --> 01:18:55,41 a little bit because I'm older but I don't. Write What's your home construction 902 01:18:55,42 --> 01:19:00,60 schedule here we are in January but I want to have this in the air before the end 903 01:19:00,61 --> 01:19:07,45 of this quarter that's our goal for if this is signed by tonight. Michael 904 01:19:07,46 --> 01:19:12,42 beautiful life building permit during the appeal period if the Taliban were allowed 905 01:19:12,42 --> 01:19:16,30 . So you want to get go it has 906 01:19:16,31 --> 01:19:23,23 a movie like them to know. What your pleasure group in terms of science and the 907 01:19:23,24 --> 01:19:30,09 evidence I would I don't mind wait until the end of myself we deserve it well I'd 908 01:19:30,10 --> 01:19:30,75 rather see 909 01:19:30,76 --> 01:19:36,89 a real. Hero I'm all I'm really just edited as far as I'm concerned I'm ready to 910 01:19:36,90 --> 01:19:40,27 sign Do we have to sign you know meeting all everyone's 911 01:19:40,28 --> 01:19:46,99 a present or can be signed outside the meeting. Pretty much have to vote to approve 912 01:19:47,11 --> 01:19:51,96 the permit for the bill we should you know we have to vote for the. Week we have to 913 01:19:51,97 --> 01:19:56,76 vote for the special person that has presented you know we don't really have that 914 01:19:56,77 --> 01:20:01,76 front of us and we could sign it tidy way right and just want to see. 915 01:20:03,67 --> 01:20:08,53 So usually after it's something we followed to tell or the following day and that 916 01:20:09,01 --> 01:20:13,99 gets the clock ticking. So it's all. 917 01:20:15,69 --> 01:20:21,61 OK so it just does anybody have any questions about the edits at this point. So if 918 01:20:21,62 --> 01:20:26,82 we saw them in our next meeting. We'd be ready to go we would have to have 919 01:20:27,00 --> 01:20:31,23 a lot of discussion. So everybody said we're going to also be that there's 920 01:20:31,24 --> 01:20:36,97 a question this should be no there's no question right if we're all good on the had 921 01:20:36,97 --> 01:20:42,97 . Any questions and you have to know them well we've only got it and I think you 922 01:20:42,98 --> 01:20:47,23 know we would want to know it but we wouldn't cite it until it was pristine because 923 01:20:47,24 --> 01:20:52,76 that's the. Oh yeah I mean the document that the signature could go to would be the 924 01:20:52,77 --> 01:20:54,92 fixed up version but we could cite 925 01:20:54,93 --> 01:21:01,72 a page. We end up just depends that cookie I grant signed the next meeting 926 01:21:01,73 --> 01:21:03,35 or you know I just don't want to you know it's been 927 01:21:03,36 --> 01:21:09,55 a while and he's been very patient but we would know if we vote. He said enough for 928 01:21:09,56 --> 01:21:13,78 you to go to the. Building Inspector the next few days original because I know 929 01:21:13,83 --> 01:21:14,21 provide 930 01:21:14,22 --> 01:21:20,34 a recorded proof that it's been reported Oh the registry oh yeah OK Well at least 931 01:21:20,35 --> 01:21:21,40 Thank you President issued 932 01:21:21,41 --> 01:21:27,33 a permit I might accept the application. I was just saying in the process we're. 933 01:21:28,92 --> 01:21:35,25 Going to have construction drawing interest this week so I'm ready to. Girl 934 01:21:35,76 --> 01:21:40,84 we'll meet for two weeks. Right. I just go there are 935 01:21:40,85 --> 01:21:47,71 a lot we can just. See yeah that's probably what we owe the twenty 936 01:21:47,72 --> 01:21:54,51 family. OK 937 01:21:54,52 --> 01:22:00,15 so we leave it that way then that will love. My vote is the signature is going to 938 01:22:00,16 --> 01:22:06,08 get the first copies that are here that really you know so Ex me right to be able 939 01:22:06,09 --> 01:22:12,50 to wrap it up. I could see if you got it so. OK thank you for coming in. 940 01:22:15,74 --> 01:22:21,94 To. The Bell do you think before our next meeting you can e-mail us up probably do 941 01:22:21,95 --> 01:22:22,36 it for 942 01:22:22,44 --> 01:22:29,14 a final verdict but for if you want over to write in to. Look 943 01:22:29,15 --> 01:22:33,77 a where do we stand Mr Chu We know you're just in the hallway we have 944 01:22:33,78 --> 01:22:36,33 a thing from Adele that. Various. 945 01:22:43,85 --> 01:22:44,11 People. 946 01:22:52,56 --> 01:22:55,48 That I'm not. Going to hear. 947 01:23:05,41 --> 01:23:05,56 From. 948 01:23:13,45 --> 01:23:20,16 Like really go. How many people need to 949 01:23:20,17 --> 01:23:25,73 sign. Me. Up. 950 01:23:30,48 --> 01:23:36,29 But you probably want to meet or if not don't you want to. That he or anyone. 951 01:23:37,51 --> 01:23:41,62 Like you can come in and sign it. Like you know you know he was to me because I 952 01:23:41,63 --> 01:23:48,35 didn't learn from Sunday Sunday coming to see what he would have to vote on. You 953 01:23:48,36 --> 01:23:52,41 it's only Yeah I don't see why we can go down the road you know why can't we come 954 01:23:52,42 --> 01:23:56,08 right we're going to make sure we can for all of you. If someone doesn't show up 955 01:23:56,09 --> 01:24:01,23 next week well I think I just think proceed really decide this that you really 956 01:24:01,24 --> 01:24:07,09 don't want to vote on something that. Isn't right for you and we've we've all. 957 01:24:09,17 --> 01:24:13,29 We've talked about the others were always going to do it correctly but I think 958 01:24:13,30 --> 01:24:18,05 essentially if you want to make sure it's correct. For you vote unless you're the 959 01:24:18,06 --> 01:24:20,21 most was that we grant 960 01:24:20,22 --> 01:24:26,76 a special permit. Provided the wording. Is acceptable to the board or something 961 01:24:27,11 --> 01:24:32,09 like that when. You're going which doesn't tell him you know I'm going to tell him 962 01:24:32,10 --> 01:24:38,84 last time that our next meeting you will who was the hope but then change you know 963 01:24:38,84 --> 01:24:45,74 . If we don't we don't know what the majority next time next would be going to 964 01:24:45,75 --> 01:24:46,86 goes on for another to make 965 01:24:46,87 --> 01:24:54,21 a motion. And 966 01:24:54,22 --> 01:24:58,26 if the edits I don't want We're right next time you know when you will miss not 967 01:24:58,47 --> 01:25:02,30 just edited it we just went through the whole thing it had it it it I don't know if 968 01:25:02,31 --> 01:25:05,25 we we said you know what you said it could be 969 01:25:05,26 --> 01:25:09,65 a no discussion sign it next meeting so why you say now that we're going to find 970 01:25:09,66 --> 01:25:13,71 something wrong if we just edited it and we read the edits we made also met it 971 01:25:13,72 --> 01:25:15,57 built writing it down it's 972 01:25:15,58 --> 01:25:18,96 a done deal as far as I'm concerned I don't see why we can't vote on it tonight the 973 01:25:18,97 --> 01:25:21,99 bill is also here you can make a marriage as well that would be 974 01:25:22,00 --> 01:25:26,83 a typographic have got to do away with what we had as it is well if we vote on it 975 01:25:26,84 --> 01:25:30,91 tonight and it's not written the way that I if I make 976 01:25:30,92 --> 01:25:36,05 a vote tonight it's not written down at all but I thought we were. I'm not going to 977 01:25:36,06 --> 01:25:42,99 free. Because of the technical thing I mean I'd 978 01:25:43,00 --> 01:25:49,62 rather see the writing and I think if you're paid detached and want something. I 979 01:25:49,63 --> 01:25:49,82 make 980 01:25:49,83 --> 01:25:55,63 a motion that we vote on tonight well the motion would be to approve. And what you 981 01:25:55,64 --> 01:26:01,13 put up with with with that was discussed with the changes and amended with the 982 01:26:01,14 --> 01:26:04,14 edits as amended with the edits that we made tonight as 983 01:26:04,15 --> 01:26:08,39 a. Second OK discussion. 984 01:26:12,11 --> 01:26:17,11 Now let's say the next question is if it doesn't get approved what happens can we 985 01:26:17,25 --> 01:26:23,86 can we still go over the next. Well I don't want to see I don't want to see three 986 01:26:23,87 --> 01:26:28,33 people missing but if we next meet me and let me make news when you can say with 987 01:26:28,34 --> 01:26:33,04 the tree just as submitted these are changes that were actually submitted you have 988 01:26:33,05 --> 01:26:36,97 been submitted. Right right. 989 01:26:41,01 --> 01:26:43,98 That. I get a feel I'm not going to get 990 01:26:43,99 --> 01:26:49,05 a vote anyway so I went through or. Was that because I see every second it has it 991 01:26:49,06 --> 01:26:54,44 I'm not going to approve it. My feeling is that you know they said no like I don't 992 01:26:54,45 --> 01:27:01,44 want to say. The leadership is on the. Line really going across 993 01:27:01,45 --> 01:27:06,44 the border we're going to really like you know did you know you think so or so I'm 994 01:27:06,45 --> 01:27:11,23 shaking this. Sorrows and this guy says. 995 01:27:13,40 --> 01:27:19,04 This is all right well wait till the next. Year I guess I'll spare you all this 996 01:27:19,16 --> 01:27:23,81 right now is everybody thought I'd be here through these no ball today just said he 997 01:27:23,82 --> 01:27:25,71 wouldn't be that's that's why I'm saying if we don't have 998 01:27:25,72 --> 01:27:30,85 a supermajority then it's going to drag on the way the Lord knows So Dave's not 999 01:27:30,86 --> 01:27:36,76 here. And right Linda vote against it think of two three four where you would go to 1000 01:27:36,77 --> 01:27:37,17 give them 1001 01:27:37,18 --> 01:27:42,27 a day to day my vote against Why what I'm most at with this as we discussed No I 1002 01:27:42,28 --> 01:27:46,71 said you would vote against it and next is everything that is always everything was 1003 01:27:46,72 --> 01:27:52,88 great we wanted what we discussed. It was unedited we haven't changed yet it's just 1004 01:27:53,05 --> 01:27:57,48 as going to the next week it would mean that we can if we can postpone it the next 1005 01:27:57,49 --> 01:28:04,22 year and do it. And one year no. Option for new where 1006 01:28:04,23 --> 01:28:08,64 waves about to happen by the F.C.C. They're freezing up U.H.F. 1007 01:28:08,65 --> 01:28:09,63 You know as 1008 01:28:09,64 --> 01:28:15,19 a one year all your T.V.'s must are on cable or have the box or digital that won't 1009 01:28:15,20 --> 01:28:20,63 work. And so you guys are the old black and white and you're buying like me in your 1010 01:28:20,67 --> 01:28:26,68 mind waiting for us but that's where he sleeps. And I want to thank you in 1011 01:28:26,69 --> 01:28:32,07 a big right to. Tell I've been waiting. 1012 01:28:33,52 --> 01:28:39,62 Very. People are still talking so anyway if you what to say anymore about this 1013 01:28:40,00 --> 01:28:46,98 special permit for today him for the self. Whatever Most humans are you know when 1014 01:28:46,99 --> 01:28:52,54 I was growing the one I went through my second. I knew him he knew when to take the 1015 01:28:52,55 --> 01:28:55,67 chance that you could have full bore well I'm 1016 01:28:55,68 --> 01:29:00,69 a super majority but the thing is if it were I mean we've been advised by or legal 1017 01:29:00,70 --> 01:29:02,65 counsel that this is 1018 01:29:02,66 --> 01:29:07,11 a program we cannot know because that's isn't there I can go to court over the 1019 01:29:07,12 --> 01:29:09,78 edits Now if you will so I'm just thinking if it came to 1020 01:29:09,79 --> 01:29:15,82 a vote in two weeks two people voted against. It didn't get approved. 1021 01:29:17,20 --> 01:29:22,36 Then we get out and we get support again. Yes it would be something like that we 1022 01:29:22,37 --> 01:29:25,71 would have to prove you know we have to we are you know is there 1023 01:29:25,72 --> 01:29:29,26 a court order. You know we were up to 1024 01:29:29,27 --> 01:29:36,05 a program in two weeks we can get to get it right and then we can if it is wrong 1025 01:29:36,31 --> 01:29:36,74 you might get 1026 01:29:36,75 --> 01:29:42,71 a really good laugh I think our hope is to approach it that are going up to us to 1027 01:29:42,72 --> 01:29:48,20 groups that we started to for what we want we can put conditions what we reporting 1028 01:29:48,21 --> 01:29:54,17 to the court we have to prove. What we didn't get that I thought it was more play 1029 01:29:54,18 --> 01:29:58,97 something about yes we have in the long ago maybe that's not what we have proven we 1030 01:29:58,98 --> 01:30:02,27 would do it the next you know they had exactly the playing quarterback for approval 1031 01:30:02,28 --> 01:30:08,81 or agreed condition those can. Condition. The colon row 1032 01:30:08,82 --> 01:30:13,05 where the Haitian people democracy David people get if you. 1033 01:30:15,91 --> 01:30:22,28 Are going to run for over on the. Right. OK why are you ready to 1034 01:30:22,91 --> 01:30:24,74 give us an update on where you stand we got 1035 01:30:24,75 --> 01:30:30,61 a letter from our. Got here says it is now quote just. 1036 01:30:32,25 --> 01:30:38,45 So you know it's also going to. Do. 1037 01:30:40,22 --> 01:30:47,08 Yes. But that's very speculative because they didn't know what does that 1038 01:30:47,09 --> 01:30:49,63 mean you know if you see. 1039 01:30:54,08 --> 01:31:00,47 This you're in for your work on the doorway of the earth and Gary. Don't 1040 01:31:01,47 --> 01:31:05,98 write. So good to love. Is 1041 01:31:05,99 --> 01:31:09,58 a good thing right because if you go the accepted part was performed at the right 1042 01:31:10,40 --> 01:31:15,81 just like interesting right here. We still have the original application form 1043 01:31:15,82 --> 01:31:22,57 somewhere. Oh yeah I remember that yeah I've been thinking about it 1044 01:31:23,02 --> 01:31:29,54 and. Yeah so we need. We need 1045 01:31:29,55 --> 01:31:33,17 a motion of the grip especially for those that there's only a second for 1046 01:31:33,18 --> 01:31:35,42 a second. David made 1047 01:31:35,43 --> 01:31:42,26 a motion I seconded it OK discussion. OK All they ever say I 1048 01:31:42,65 --> 01:31:49,41 write I post your state looking for site later tonight OK OK you feel 1049 01:31:49,42 --> 01:31:56,33 yourself getting. Three You have. One better start in two years you're 1050 01:31:56,34 --> 01:32:03,16 right. All right you see our next agenda item is 1051 01:32:03,87 --> 01:32:09,13 subdivision rules and regs. But we're going to do computing so forth. 1052 01:32:10,94 --> 01:32:17,68 Like mint for instance. What do you know what do you got three minutes ago I. 1053 01:32:20,52 --> 01:32:27,28 Still don't. Know if you can really break it you can print it 1054 01:32:28,23 --> 01:32:32,87 we got November thirtieth i Phone for twenty three several levels. 1055 01:32:38,35 --> 01:32:41,74 Let's start with the oldest one October twenty three. 1056 01:32:46,13 --> 01:32:51,85 So we said. OK with you sort of keeping up with our discussion are you able to make 1057 01:32:51,86 --> 01:32:57,14 sense of everything OK. Yeah. I noticed. 1058 01:32:59,14 --> 01:33:04,40 In the minutes when citizens talked to Republican very you just refer to them as 1059 01:33:04,41 --> 01:33:09,86 citizens as opposed to the name of the person what's your feeling board members 1060 01:33:10,10 --> 01:33:11,59 does that matter to you he just says 1061 01:33:11,60 --> 01:33:18,37 a citizen says as opposed to John Q Public says. Well as we have 1062 01:33:18,38 --> 01:33:22,07 you asked for their name letting their name and address you know just to make sure 1063 01:33:22,08 --> 01:33:27,43 that their dog was present and so on but you guys care starts her report here yeah 1064 01:33:27,72 --> 01:33:33,82 pretty. Good name of the surface of the whole thing. So maybe going forward if 1065 01:33:33,83 --> 01:33:38,23 somebody if we get their name just included in it how would that work well I mean 1066 01:33:38,40 --> 01:33:44,37 you know we. Don't hesitate to say to the person please repeat your name or repeat 1067 01:33:44,38 --> 01:33:50,62 your dress yourself I'll make sure they think. I'm going there no I don't think so 1068 01:33:50,68 --> 01:33:57,62 you know you know. Yeah if you had somebody from we're going to 1069 01:33:57,69 --> 01:34:04,23 be. Looking for that land up under there. Roger but it their 1070 01:34:04,27 --> 01:34:08,68 property I believe this yes not that they have to be regardless but if they're not 1071 01:34:08,69 --> 01:34:11,84 he probably knows that he was around we don't know why they're here to do in the 1072 01:34:11,85 --> 01:34:17,80 water at Sanford Yeah well water OK the Russians on October twenty three minutes 1073 01:34:17,81 --> 01:34:24,66 a very tough week for say that right with much of the second paragraph or it and 1074 01:34:24,67 --> 01:34:28,76 the second one. Where there is it. 1075 01:34:31,63 --> 01:34:34,99 Worth of caution on certain points for. 1076 01:34:39,15 --> 01:34:42,51 Further down where there's a big space and says. It was 1077 01:34:42,52 --> 01:34:48,08 a question for you really DOES IT nation was designed to on OK. 1078 01:34:50,38 --> 01:34:56,46 I want to hear about the phrase I love him but it's not bill that. I didn't know 1079 01:34:56,56 --> 01:35:00,95 what was it. For having to. Do. 1080 01:35:05,11 --> 01:35:09,77 This. OK You know she loved that space because there was 1081 01:35:09,78 --> 01:35:16,29 a sentence I put in that says in the space above it was questioned but it certainly 1082 01:35:16,30 --> 01:35:20,92 should say Mr kind of also raised the concern that the board would not have the 1083 01:35:20,93 --> 01:35:26,38 ability to review the subsequent project relative to environmental concerns such as 1084 01:35:26,39 --> 01:35:31,89 noise and air quality. He did Beauty. 1085 01:35:35,88 --> 01:35:40,60 Of that is that we will read you are crazy we have 1086 01:35:40,61 --> 01:35:45,92 a bass player that's great is that my father after many years because that I open 1087 01:35:46,19 --> 01:35:52,74 my window her out now my mind I open my eyes didn't know if I have the right one I 1088 01:35:52,75 --> 01:35:58,98 don't know of another yeah I knew I was going to take the link back to my own and 1089 01:35:58,99 --> 01:36:02,04 it the next paragraph it said it was 1090 01:36:02,05 --> 01:36:06,60 a question there were people you know that designation was designed to on the 1091 01:36:06,61 --> 01:36:13,58 writer to go on. And on at 1092 01:36:13,59 --> 01:36:19,96 the bottom line no wonder these guys were drug. Right. And I think of 1093 01:36:19,97 --> 01:36:26,95 a few of those and you're right. OK faking already oh 1094 01:36:26,96 --> 01:36:31,65 yeah its publication yesterday I got to believe it right you know what we have to 1095 01:36:31,69 --> 01:36:37,89 that's what. They were doing and page three 1096 01:36:38,65 --> 01:36:44,08 I don't know. Why. Well you know. 1097 01:36:49,66 --> 01:36:54,62 We've. Done the high school that's the one at the high school where you take very 1098 01:36:54,63 --> 01:37:01,52 good. Was hardly I know so I guess if people recall if they made it to 1099 01:37:01,56 --> 01:37:06,18 the most of the speech you negated the gold and take the difficult to read paper 1100 01:37:06,23 --> 01:37:13,19 that. Said. He wanted to thank 1101 01:37:13,20 --> 01:37:20,13 you what if. He said look you know if this is twenty five public 1102 01:37:20,14 --> 01:37:27,06 hearing that group are for texting twenty one. Horses he indicated that goal 1103 01:37:27,28 --> 01:37:33,36 to take the difficult to read paper map and digitize it. So he's you know degraded 1104 01:37:33,37 --> 01:37:39,81 the goal was to take is. One thing if 1105 01:37:40,41 --> 01:37:40,81 you read 1106 01:37:40,85 --> 01:37:47,52 a paper now. And into time I think the word was you know he indicated the goal 1107 01:37:47,88 --> 01:37:53,56 is to take. The difficult to read should all be hyphenated 1108 01:37:54,53 --> 01:38:01,32 friends difficult to read would be. Right but he also knocked over twenty 1109 01:38:01,33 --> 01:38:05,29 three to read anything and according to the point you know the most didn't tell you 1110 01:38:05,47 --> 01:38:11,71 much more of the same or. Made a motion for 1111 01:38:11,72 --> 01:38:18,61 a second early second and I made the move on all of them. And the next one 1112 01:38:18,62 --> 01:38:24,78 I don't know said it was but I did I did the. Really cool or really. 1113 01:38:27,22 --> 01:38:31,71 Well the reception just not that good no there's no why is there anybody you know 1114 01:38:32,54 --> 01:38:39,50 who's going out of your new job. But he 1115 01:38:39,51 --> 01:38:43,79 also took over twenty three so we're going to do the most good to make it all that 1116 01:38:43,80 --> 01:38:48,06 mean for you but I want to really separate the trees that. Made 1117 01:38:48,07 --> 01:38:50,12 a motion that says Mr Chester over 1118 01:38:50,13 --> 01:38:56,47 a forty five lives with all its forms. Made it the second 1119 01:38:57,39 --> 01:39:04,30 thing I think the big girl to thank you and we go. And the most of those who have 1120 01:39:04,31 --> 01:39:08,23 meant what I feel for you. As a as 1121 01:39:08,24 --> 01:39:15,02 a man. Roy Truly. Healthier say I. 1122 01:39:16,53 --> 01:39:23,11 Suppose the state will carry. OK December eleventh Ah 1123 01:39:23,71 --> 01:39:30,24 just happens you know I'm sorry. I go November thirtieth. 1124 01:39:31,69 --> 01:39:38,42 To over the weekend. Thank you. Now when I was. 1125 01:39:40,35 --> 01:39:46,04 Told to leave my weekend let's get the regular one you know if we if we uproot 1126 01:39:46,05 --> 01:39:50,40 those then go over the right not like really you know we can't release and we're 1127 01:39:50,41 --> 01:39:56,01 going to the break it is not close to us we. Just are real We're going on twenty 1128 01:39:56,02 --> 01:39:59,72 years without any questions I don't have anybody to hear that I look through it 1129 01:39:59,73 --> 01:40:06,49 night and then I live where do I know it wasn't. Which 1130 01:40:06,67 --> 01:40:08,99 I didn't wind up but I guess I was 1131 01:40:09,04 --> 01:40:15,44 a forty five the last line from the. Question comes up 1132 01:40:15,84 --> 01:40:18,66 do you want. To have 1133 01:40:18,67 --> 01:40:25,43 a determination. I know that Leader 1134 01:40:25,73 --> 01:40:28,29 Reid. Would be 1135 01:40:28,30 --> 01:40:35,11 a calm. Day after him and then that for you all that said in the 1136 01:40:35,12 --> 01:40:41,87 period to the question. You have to get rid of that the difficult question 1137 01:40:41,88 --> 01:40:48,66 please. She offered me the question came up if the question comes up. 1138 01:40:53,97 --> 01:40:55,55 When the question comes up. 1139 01:41:03,13 --> 01:41:09,74 I'll feel strongly about it OK Well each other. And then on page 1140 01:41:09,75 --> 01:41:11,95 five the Ninth Ward. 1141 01:41:18,72 --> 01:41:22,74 Said with one of the advocates of my note and after looking requesting 1142 01:41:22,75 --> 01:41:27,24 a very devoted single family dwelling on it it was straight with me for that back 1143 01:41:27,25 --> 01:41:33,95 from the white one. To ten feet I don't think you can do with weapons remember 1144 01:41:34,12 --> 01:41:40,09 that well there's only. One peach on your plate. 1145 01:41:41,36 --> 01:41:44,40 It's nine twenty five. Maybe it was then 1146 01:41:44,41 --> 01:41:51,37 a step back from the from the other side better yet. Not from what you 1147 01:41:51,38 --> 01:41:56,18 have what's the rear boundary twenty five and the so I just fifteen is 1148 01:41:56,19 --> 01:42:02,87 a side show you know that pretty well yes you want to work so well then change 1149 01:42:02,88 --> 01:42:04,20 what's inside I don't. 1150 01:42:10,11 --> 01:42:14,49 Care if any else I know there were thirteen you have page six of ten 1151 01:42:14,50 --> 01:42:20,09 o six adjournment Mr Mark Yeah I'm oh yeah he was awful he was. 1152 01:42:22,95 --> 01:42:23,14 Just 1153 01:42:23,15 --> 01:42:30,09 a Marxist is the great Madam. That back to the 1154 01:42:30,83 --> 01:42:35,66 max. All right anybody else on November thirteenth. 1155 01:42:38,08 --> 01:42:38,89 I need to move to 1156 01:42:39,25 --> 01:42:46,08 a meeting this is November seventh. Second But Mark Block got it 1157 01:42:46,18 --> 01:42:52,96 right OK OK everything I did I say hi most of state. Here. 1158 01:42:53,98 --> 01:42:59,81 So. We're not going to last night we're going to do both later. 1159 01:43:01,76 --> 01:43:05,42 I think it was one of the next Summer Love the next one I can hear you. 1160 01:43:09,39 --> 01:43:15,07 My least I just got to give you credit for. You for track of all this stuff I mean 1161 01:43:15,08 --> 01:43:15,38 you got 1162 01:43:15,39 --> 01:43:22,11 a lot of you got your. One seven hundred thirty you know when you write or 1163 01:43:22,12 --> 01:43:23,35 think I've done right. 1164 01:43:29,74 --> 01:43:35,63 OK so you. Think You Are. In the I don't. 1165 01:43:37,68 --> 01:43:39,96 Know probably the very 1166 01:43:39,97 --> 01:43:44,75 a fourth and where it says Mr Munder and requested the planting of white right 1167 01:43:45,71 --> 01:43:48,12 white should be. Well. 1168 01:43:57,69 --> 01:43:59,74 In the last letter on page three. 1169 01:44:05,20 --> 01:44:05,31 For 1170 01:44:05,32 --> 01:44:12,45 a section and. If there are. No you have chosen brown paper there are several 1171 01:44:12,45 --> 01:44:19,13 . That she Thank you for having met me I miss the St George I'm not with you 1172 01:44:19,17 --> 01:44:24,10 Tony are you and Mr Van didn't grow up that way some days it's 1173 01:44:24,11 --> 01:44:31,05 a small day right. In the morning yeah yeah yeah yeah then we're going you know. 1174 01:44:32,08 --> 01:44:35,98 In the eight twenty five thirty eight in Auckland I think Mark made 1175 01:44:35,99 --> 01:44:42,46 a motion to endorse the plan we always don't we I wouldn't do it saying dollar for 1176 01:44:42,47 --> 01:44:48,52 him personally you know. And the thing last paragraph. 1177 01:44:49,70 --> 01:44:56,55 Attorney general claim noted that Wyatt property runs between the two twelve and I 1178 01:44:56,55 --> 01:44:59,31 . Think it should be runs along. 1179 01:45:03,76 --> 01:45:07,26 Oh no he's probably I don't know his properties between the two administrations you 1180 01:45:07,27 --> 01:45:10,95 know you have your on the other right side there's one on each side of his property 1181 01:45:10,96 --> 01:45:17,72 yeah. That's. OK there was some names here had questions was 1182 01:45:17,76 --> 01:45:24,34 way was one. Of the spelling. Of murder and it was an 1183 01:45:24,65 --> 01:45:25,97 ex or was just. 1184 01:45:31,91 --> 01:45:35,57 Just like it sounds with anything up there you know that one would. 1185 01:45:40,14 --> 01:45:43,95 Probably run when when we're going to when we ask 1186 01:45:43,96 --> 01:45:50,90 a citizen to. You know station name an address you can chime right in and 1187 01:45:50,91 --> 01:45:54,40 asked to them for the spelling of that you know record that right at the same time 1188 01:45:54,41 --> 01:46:01,11 list oh no and you don't have to. Tell them surely me shoot me if you really 1189 01:46:01,12 --> 01:46:07,19 feel I could get this knowing that. I might soon and I think you know Romney is 1190 01:46:07,20 --> 01:46:12,15 where they know as people all. Over. 1191 01:46:14,22 --> 01:46:20,76 The last. Couple 1192 01:46:21,46 --> 01:46:27,17 idiots that are going. To be how many and. 1193 01:46:29,32 --> 01:46:34,79 They don't want to get to Florida. It's 1194 01:46:34,80 --> 01:46:38,76 a funny thing you different parts of the country like if you go to the Midwest 1195 01:46:38,77 --> 01:46:41,78 where there are a lot of definite you know band of or 1196 01:46:42,08 --> 01:46:44,73 a little problem but here you got to spell 1197 01:46:44,74 --> 01:46:51,47 a lot if you go to. You know you go to parts of it try to have this huge Polish 1198 01:46:51,48 --> 01:46:55,30 population and you start throwing these pollution in one place they spell no 1199 01:46:55,31 --> 01:47:00,96 problem but yes we have helped us got ski at me and I'm not sure how to do that. 1200 01:47:04,76 --> 01:47:08,39 And then of course people for that want to come here can't pronounce half the town 1201 01:47:08,69 --> 01:47:14,36 here like you. Yes there are you know we've. Got 1202 01:47:14,37 --> 01:47:21,24 a long period yeah. Yeah we're you know. All right 1203 01:47:21,25 --> 01:47:23,35 you know he also I mean a lot of fun facts 1204 01:47:23,36 --> 01:47:28,59 a track here page on the middle of the second paragraph and for things that was 1205 01:47:28,68 --> 01:47:33,26 questioned about what happened in Haiti you know this design is not working you 1206 01:47:33,27 --> 01:47:39,57 know whether responsible is going right above that window Yeah. Second paragraph 1207 01:47:39,58 --> 01:47:43,21 and I said Mr Marks over the responsibility of this board is to look at storm 1208 01:47:43,22 --> 01:47:47,96 management should be storm water management. He said matter Mr Mark madness and I 1209 01:47:47,97 --> 01:47:54,69 was just making history. And the second to last 1210 01:47:54,70 --> 01:48:00,54 paragraph. Of why you posted the improvements were completed some discussion was 1211 01:48:00,55 --> 01:48:01,23 held and it was 1212 01:48:01,24 --> 01:48:12,13 a consensus the board was to. Push to release. That 1213 01:48:12,13 --> 01:48:18,56 . Anyway. Oh. Yeah. 1214 01:48:25,19 --> 01:48:31,93 It's Benadryl or something. Cold all. Gone through the 1215 01:48:32,43 --> 01:48:38,80 out of there in drawer. Didn't work holds up so. You know he also December eleventh 1216 01:48:38,80 --> 01:48:41,61 . The way it used to be except 1217 01:48:41,62 --> 01:48:48,56 a. Second right David. Yes All right all day I 1218 01:48:48,57 --> 01:48:53,82 feel right. The story right now that you are 1219 01:48:53,83 --> 01:48:59,81 a bit younger than the one. Play board budget bill recommending that he became Do 1220 01:48:59,82 --> 01:49:05,15 you know I want to ask the work of the real ask the question therefore going to 1221 01:49:05,16 --> 01:49:10,36 have people pouring out of having any public hearings next year like for example. 1222 01:49:10,77 --> 01:49:16,98 So many for. You know for sure to carry some advertising morning. 1223 01:49:18,96 --> 01:49:25,11 But yeah we need to get there soon how do we go day after tomorrow I mean we had 1224 01:49:25,12 --> 01:49:29,30 disappeared but all the theories you're planning on you know if you're if you have 1225 01:49:29,31 --> 01:49:33,30 any thoughts about look at last year's an appropriate saver and you could do that 1226 01:49:33,37 --> 01:49:38,65 or you just say hey last year we didn't do was only Let's carry some money for 1227 01:49:38,66 --> 01:49:44,41 advertising you know right we didn't make enough money last year so I. Put three 1228 01:49:44,45 --> 01:49:46,08 more tests year we had 1229 01:49:46,09 --> 01:49:52,92 a pretty good budget expense where you spent three three seven ninety already. And 1230 01:49:52,92 --> 01:49:59,75 . Had nothing in the budget for having had that we just said. You. Have. 1231 01:50:02,38 --> 01:50:08,11 You know seven you had the right did we have any player support because we know if 1232 01:50:08,72 --> 01:50:15,72 you're going to be holding some hearings. Here. Forty 1233 01:50:15,73 --> 01:50:16,27 three D. 1234 01:50:16,58 --> 01:50:21,56 Do we have any Saudi issues coming up in old age that we want to hear that well 1235 01:50:21,57 --> 01:50:26,42 that's a question you. Could even think of anything for what forty three D. 1236 01:50:26,43 --> 01:50:31,46 There are going to have enough don't result in five hundred rows would be gentle 1237 01:50:31,47 --> 01:50:36,52 but there's the one we have one of those free Put that would be under this budget 1238 01:50:37,74 --> 01:50:41,60 because we go July July it's right here in July doesn't that still be under this 1239 01:50:41,61 --> 01:50:46,12 budget. We've been holding public hearings just. 1240 01:50:49,83 --> 01:50:55,78 Yeah. You know we do know we have to do that the public hearing yes we want to do 1241 01:50:55,79 --> 01:51:01,73 that if you're. Just physically I mean zero zero eight zero way in Calgary area 1242 01:51:01,78 --> 01:51:06,80 calendar so isn't any going next physically So what's it cost roughly at your top 1243 01:51:06,81 --> 01:51:11,49 two hundred dollars. So if we did four that would be 1244 01:51:11,50 --> 01:51:16,24 a grand war right. Now you know you're going to go back. 1245 01:51:19,31 --> 01:51:25,22 You're going to for I think. Oh my God Bill I don't know it's not. 1246 01:51:27,75 --> 01:51:31,42 Going to Come you want if you want to ask I want to be honest I was going home with 1247 01:51:31,82 --> 01:51:37,13 a very very fine I want to do well I think what we're going down significantly in 1248 01:51:37,14 --> 01:51:41,55 our budget and I think so I think even if we do put it in the thought that I could 1249 01:51:41,63 --> 01:51:47,56 or. Will get through no problem because we're deeply sensitive because you by the 1250 01:51:47,57 --> 01:51:53,47 way feel. You live in your fridge but. Your property taxes are 1251 01:51:53,48 --> 01:51:59,94 a bit lower this last fight for. Because the tidal wave paid for the schools 1252 01:52:00,19 --> 01:52:05,16 find us or because housing guy your wages are dropping that like you know I don't 1253 01:52:05,17 --> 01:52:11,33 think it's the housing crunch. I think it's going to get. The currently using Curd 1254 01:52:11,62 --> 01:52:16,41 you know new projects I've been taken on yet and I think that's probably why what 1255 01:52:16,42 --> 01:52:19,07 happened. What happens we have 1256 01:52:19,08 --> 01:52:25,14 a general type of housing the flavor of. Property tax guy for bicyclists there kept 1257 01:52:25,15 --> 01:52:32,01 his base that way just to drop. But if you watch it. I mean 1258 01:52:32,02 --> 01:52:35,16 it's going to fail there's lots of times evaluated at and I'm going to drop the 1259 01:52:35,17 --> 01:52:37,83 evaluation of your problem. You'll take 1260 01:52:37,84 --> 01:52:43,35 a crunch if you sell it but it's going to make me think what the evaluations of. 1261 01:52:44,68 --> 01:52:49,83 That the town do you know. When they when they send out to people to assess. 1262 01:52:52,42 --> 01:52:56,55 In between that the market drops you know you know property values and then drop 1263 01:52:57,53 --> 01:53:01,98 steadily based on what system you know that goes well they don't really care about 1264 01:53:01,99 --> 01:53:02,66 the market as 1265 01:53:02,67 --> 01:53:09,01 a whole. You know market values do you usually high and then he 1266 01:53:09,14 --> 01:53:16,11 uses valuation. So they start on sales in the immediate 1267 01:53:16,12 --> 01:53:22,31 area with on sale so sales go down the valuation of the property goes down 1268 01:53:22,95 --> 01:53:25,76 but the rate goes up because you need the money 1269 01:53:25,77 --> 01:53:29,46 a woman to run the time know the shell game right after 1270 01:53:29,51 --> 01:53:34,32 a shell game or anything on the budget that we talked about have been more in 1271 01:53:34,33 --> 01:53:38,59 pursuit before with the hearing about to get the public hearing so we thought we'd 1272 01:53:38,60 --> 01:53:43,28 have to have the five hundred if we thought we had or it be another thousand but 1273 01:53:43,29 --> 01:53:48,36 that would only be after to like one because. You know I want to still this but 1274 01:53:48,37 --> 01:53:54,10 here so you want us let's back up if we go through these one of the time OK we've 1275 01:53:54,11 --> 01:53:56,25 carried over the last number of years 1276 01:53:56,92 --> 01:54:01,44 a pretty significant professional technical line and that's primarily been for the 1277 01:54:01,94 --> 01:54:07,97 mapping in the C M R P C study and be zoning mapping. 1278 01:54:09,28 --> 01:54:11,19 We haven't used even 1279 01:54:11,20 --> 01:54:17,97 a fraction of that. So the first question is are we going to pursue the 1280 01:54:17,98 --> 01:54:24,68 zoning mapping next year. If so did you want to carry any budgetary 1281 01:54:24,69 --> 01:54:29,73 amount for that. If not you know it's easy enough to just say we're all 1282 01:54:29,74 --> 01:54:35,69 professional technical. All even in their transfer if you needed somewhere else. 1283 01:54:38,08 --> 01:54:43,74 Well I think the sense was we want to keep moving on this only. And that we have. 1284 01:54:45,03 --> 01:54:51,55 We have this situation where we've got overlapping stuff and what does that stand 1285 01:54:51,56 --> 01:54:55,99 now and were we going to. Put it out on the T.V. 1286 01:54:56,00 --> 01:54:56,27 There was 1287 01:54:56,28 --> 01:55:01,59 a subcommittee that was formed between Ernie and Roy and they were going to sit 1288 01:55:01,60 --> 01:55:02,05 down take 1289 01:55:02,06 --> 01:55:08,14 a look at the map I met with Roy once and that's kind of where we're going to have 1290 01:55:08,15 --> 01:55:13,69 so many Thank you guys we're going to come your way do you relate the existing You 1291 01:55:13,70 --> 01:55:20,49 know yes right paper around on the digitized map and that's pretty cos that's where 1292 01:55:20,50 --> 01:55:27,00 we're at and I thought that we talked. About letting people come in correct here to 1293 01:55:27,01 --> 01:55:32,58 sort it dissipate where there might be some problems show it to match them bring up 1294 01:55:33,08 --> 01:55:37,99 the issues and if they don't bring up to your issues and go through because as we 1295 01:55:38,00 --> 01:55:44,99 found out just sitting down with where did those numbers come from nobody knows 1296 01:55:45,00 --> 01:55:51,96 where the two thousand feet came from originated so we want this do we want to move 1297 01:55:51,97 --> 01:55:55,30 it to that step where we put something on the T.V. 1298 01:55:55,50 --> 01:55:57,04 Or whatever so that people come in take 1299 01:55:57,05 --> 01:56:00,90 a look at that if you guys only make up or how do we want to I would buy that stuff 1300 01:56:00,97 --> 01:56:07,16 I would rather have. Well up in the goodness story let people. 1301 01:56:09,55 --> 01:56:15,63 Tell me that they supply their own Like I said you know it's a pretty close we put 1302 01:56:15,64 --> 01:56:18,87 a digital over here to look pretty close but pretty close does not cut it when 1303 01:56:18,88 --> 01:56:22,58 you're talking to somebody who says my property line is right here and you're 1304 01:56:22,59 --> 01:56:26,18 telling him it's over here. So no we're not talking about 1305 01:56:26,19 --> 01:56:30,29 a problem Romney one song has bugs on balls only what up there right you know right 1306 01:56:30,30 --> 01:56:33,89 so it's probably lies here it's residential next thing you know he's in commercial 1307 01:56:34,21 --> 01:56:38,80 and you know he's going to also I know he does it that's just that's my only just 1308 01:56:38,81 --> 01:56:43,91 take on it is that the people I don't want to tell people that that's all these 1309 01:56:43,92 --> 01:56:47,20 years I thought the line was here and it's not there anymore they had commercial 1310 01:56:47,21 --> 01:56:50,54 probably you know they got residential property ugly they don't have that they 1311 01:56:50,55 --> 01:56:55,82 thought they had that said to me that's. Asking for trouble but isn't it the way 1312 01:56:55,83 --> 01:56:58,67 now that. It's 1313 01:56:59,29 --> 01:57:05,36 a gray area so they think it's up to whoever issues are committed to make their 1314 01:57:05,37 --> 01:57:11,24 decision now running for the A R play and health law you know it's great or doesn't 1315 01:57:11,52 --> 01:57:16,87 it you know you know we may ask the applicant you think exactly the deal to prove 1316 01:57:16,88 --> 01:57:20,91 that you know but I'm your same in the community and I go I don't see 1317 01:57:20,92 --> 01:57:23,94 a fix one dot but I'm just saying it's going to create I want to make sure that if 1318 01:57:23,95 --> 01:57:27,00 a problem actually but it but it could create 1319 01:57:27,12 --> 01:57:31,94 a problem at the same time as trying to fix not create also did not make everything 1320 01:57:31,95 --> 01:57:37,92 I agree with you know not people could look at it and say hey close enough you know 1321 01:57:38,58 --> 01:57:44,57 there's three or four issues that come up. And then I did 1322 01:57:44,58 --> 01:57:50,52 a good three or four things to handle instead of twelve thousand and fifteen to. 1323 01:57:51,73 --> 01:57:56,57 No down yeah no I mean I've got no problem moving forward that's fine I'm just 1324 01:57:56,58 --> 01:58:02,89 saying that it's so I didn't like the committee because I saw this be 1325 01:58:02,90 --> 01:58:09,39 a problem. That I might have to live with in the town and I do it I would just like 1326 01:58:09,40 --> 01:58:14,09 somebody else to make those decisions rather than me telling people that their 1327 01:58:14,10 --> 01:58:19,92 property is not their way why I think technical for digitize it and says OK this is 1328 01:58:19,93 --> 01:58:24,87 where it is the what's happened that's where I want to go with the assessors are. 1329 01:58:25,99 --> 01:58:28,20 Assessing properties based upon the G.I.S. 1330 01:58:28,21 --> 01:58:34,51 Mapping which is consultants interpretation of our paper map Yeah exactly and so 1331 01:58:34,99 --> 01:58:41,90 the next step identify. Problems that well we talked about 1332 01:58:41,91 --> 01:58:48,86 a couple of different races we saw the first wave would be to try and develop the 1333 01:58:48,87 --> 01:58:54,09 discrepancies amongst the board which is going to be cumbersome The second way is 1334 01:58:54,10 --> 01:59:01,09 to advertise the heck out of it again back to the budget advertised. Let people 1335 01:59:01,10 --> 01:59:01,84 know we've got 1336 01:59:01,85 --> 01:59:08,71 a copy or several copies available in town hall for observing and 1337 01:59:09,03 --> 01:59:14,39 commenting on so that we can see where areas of concern might be. 1338 01:59:17,94 --> 01:59:24,16 But the problem that is could open itself up for you know I don't I don't see and I 1339 01:59:24,17 --> 01:59:29,43 don't see an easy fix so no there's not an easy fix. Those are probably the two 1340 01:59:29,44 --> 01:59:35,33 options that we talked about. If we wanted to spend some time with the public 1341 01:59:36,53 --> 01:59:40,52 based on them coming into the community development apartment and just notice the 1342 01:59:40,99 --> 01:59:45,64 looking at the map where things are wow I thought my backyard X. And Y. 1343 01:59:45,68 --> 01:59:46,23 If you had 1344 01:59:46,72 --> 01:59:52,92 a bunch of that would. The form for that be plenty work just have an informational 1345 01:59:52,93 --> 01:59:57,63 meeting to see what people say as opposed to an official public hearing you could 1346 01:59:57,64 --> 02:00:02,71 do that. I mean there's no set fast way to do this eventually we're going to have 1347 02:00:02,72 --> 02:00:02,90 to have 1348 02:00:02,91 --> 02:00:09,46 a public hearing I know that but for that first layer of to find the biggest problems 1349 02:00:09,47 --> 02:00:16,23 as Roy said could we somehow have an informational meeting here although we have to 1350 02:00:16,24 --> 02:00:19,83 get the word out to the citizenry that we're doing that right and not everybody 1351 02:00:19,84 --> 02:00:24,52 pays attention to everything. That's where the problem was our next town meeting 1352 02:00:25,33 --> 02:00:31,36 the admin right in May up until you were. There and it just really five 1353 02:00:31,86 --> 02:00:38,65 areas that problem. Using you probably about twenty four. With the 1354 02:00:38,66 --> 02:00:44,02 list of twenty four which we couldn't reproduce based upon our personality now 1355 02:00:44,03 --> 02:00:47,56 where they involve like one lot with 1356 02:00:47,57 --> 02:00:54,26 a several lives some of them particularly in the downtown area the line is sicker 1357 02:00:54,27 --> 02:00:59,60 than the property. But you know that's something you know well how do you make of 1358 02:00:59,61 --> 02:01:03,62 it how do you like all of that but I don't want it but I get some agenda time at 1359 02:01:03,63 --> 02:01:10,25 the annual meeting. Just for kicks to say the tempi Telecaster only but this is 1360 02:01:10,31 --> 02:01:15,25 this is what we're working on the planning board here is an example. Things we need 1361 02:01:15,26 --> 02:01:17,55 your feedback. And in 1362 02:01:17,56 --> 02:01:21,32 a month we're going to have this informational meeting we just encourage you to 1363 02:01:21,33 --> 02:01:26,51 come to the hall and look at this stuff I mean I'd be happy to take that minutes if 1364 02:01:26,52 --> 02:01:32,14 people I think one hundred just don't know what is in there and. What that goes out 1365 02:01:32,77 --> 02:01:36,53 seventy five people know who they work with to get it through you know but it's 1366 02:01:36,54 --> 02:01:38,12 a start anyway if it's not 1367 02:01:38,13 --> 02:01:41,16 a big issue it is something like you would actually have an article on there to 1368 02:01:41,17 --> 02:01:41,36 hear 1369 02:01:41,37 --> 02:01:46,66 a report from the Planning Board Jaron region random or relative to go off and then 1370 02:01:46,89 --> 02:01:47,84 just leave you know for 1371 02:01:47,85 --> 02:01:54,01 a host plan. What you think about that everybody that I make 1372 02:01:54,02 --> 02:01:58,44 a presentation at the town meeting just to alert people to just you know this is 1373 02:01:58,45 --> 02:02:03,15 only not about the Windows boxes the thing is that it has to be changed it has 1374 02:02:03,16 --> 02:02:09,77 never was you got all done right you know sure. When anybody have 1375 02:02:09,78 --> 02:02:16,23 a problem with that it's as our first step mom probably was. So how do I how do I 1376 02:02:16,24 --> 02:02:22,52 get out of the war. Of words the articles are due by March twenty eighth the draft 1377 02:02:22,53 --> 02:02:27,15 something else could you do that and then shoot me an email or something and when I 1378 02:02:27,16 --> 02:02:31,06 see you again we are at some point we could chat about it sure would hear reports 1379 02:02:31,07 --> 02:02:35,36 from the playing board relative to digitizing is something that be a theory not 1380 02:02:35,37 --> 02:02:35,66 a that's 1381 02:02:35,67 --> 02:02:38,67 a simple article it's not anything anybody has to vote out it's just you know 1382 02:02:39,29 --> 02:02:41,74 they're just to report and you make 1383 02:02:41,75 --> 02:02:47,57 a report saying that So what I mean is that. I think that's 1384 02:02:47,58 --> 02:02:54,45 a key and I'd like to do. It all the second anybody could do it or if. You 1385 02:02:54,46 --> 02:02:58,28 never get to do it it's just control of them thirty at night. 1386 02:03:01,47 --> 02:03:02,00 He's going to have 1387 02:03:02,01 --> 02:03:08,90 a forty three. I believe so far as I know because don't forget it's going to 1388 02:03:08,91 --> 02:03:12,92 require another public here you know mention that Katherine all just 1389 02:03:12,93 --> 02:03:19,81 a writer about. Before and I'll. Write anything else bill 1390 02:03:19,82 --> 02:03:24,52 but yeah well well let's go let's head over to here OK professional tactical It 1391 02:03:24,53 --> 02:03:27,66 sounds like you got to do something with the zoning that I think we're all about. 1392 02:03:29,32 --> 02:03:36,13 And want to save five thousand is what would Terri. Course cartographic us to work 1393 02:03:36,14 --> 02:03:38,90 on to make the modifications that develop as 1394 02:03:38,91 --> 02:03:45,51 a result of you know public hearings and who. Do those maps now think I may 1395 02:03:45,52 --> 02:03:49,06 start saying hey guys what are you doing you know you've carried this money for 1396 02:03:49,07 --> 02:03:54,46 three years you haven't used it. They may say that but you know. 1397 02:03:56,87 --> 02:04:02,46 I'll carry it five thousand to eighty I think is what we had We'll get an award for 1398 02:04:02,47 --> 02:04:09,05 Galaxy Yeah so we've That one I'll throw in the same five to five thousand to eight 1399 02:04:09,06 --> 02:04:15,22 thousand pizza for lunch. And I get think at a stitcher advertise you say 1400 02:04:15,23 --> 02:04:22,23 a thousand deaths. Well it would be for the subdivision rules are right for 1401 02:04:22,44 --> 02:04:28,20 July one of motivated to do thirty about right yes so if you think about the public 1402 02:04:28,21 --> 02:04:34,75 areas that we would pay for there is only related. To well in this subdivision it 1403 02:04:34,76 --> 02:04:41,44 rules and regs so we have that one. We have there's only damp we can do any more 1404 02:04:41,45 --> 02:04:48,13 with actor first stuff. I don't know we may i know they're looking at it. 1405 02:04:50,16 --> 02:04:53,41 But why would it just appeared that what are we going to talk about Thursday the 1406 02:04:53,42 --> 02:04:58,48 three of us going to be part of what OK about OK Also think of anything that was 1407 02:04:58,49 --> 02:05:03,86 only nature of my community potentially. Is that going to come up for. 1408 02:05:06,38 --> 02:05:06,53 There's 1409 02:05:06,54 --> 02:05:10,52 a few of those things that we talk about and the terms for developing the right 1410 02:05:10,53 --> 02:05:17,52 seven that when you think about. Low impact developments. We want 1411 02:05:17,53 --> 02:05:21,29 to roll all those to the one public here we residential compound residential 1412 02:05:21,30 --> 02:05:25,84 compound that's done through the roof right that's already in the zoning that's in 1413 02:05:25,85 --> 02:05:31,04 the zone the sorry community don't want to hear it and the one with the other thing 1414 02:05:31,05 --> 02:05:33,14 is already the zoning I think we will have to have 1415 02:05:33,15 --> 02:05:37,13 a public hearing actually under the rules direct yes you know to do that which 1416 02:05:37,14 --> 02:05:41,89 we're already sorry no brainer. So we did four different months at the 1417 02:05:41,90 --> 02:05:47,69 a thousand. I think that's very muddy to think about yes for different public 1418 02:05:47,70 --> 02:05:54,28 hearings yes. If necessary borrow it from 1419 02:05:54,43 --> 02:06:01,15 professional technical or Steve's cash Kitty transfer and I think the others were 1420 02:06:01,16 --> 02:06:07,63 just going to carry level funded. A lot of these weak level funds. 1421 02:06:08,98 --> 02:06:14,85 We do typically that's what we do but we've got this project. What did you not 1422 02:06:14,86 --> 02:06:21,83 spend in zero eight that you thought your on the other supplies. Or are 1423 02:06:21,84 --> 02:06:26,77 we about to spend put it on. What we usually handles out of and I can't give you 1424 02:06:26,78 --> 02:06:32,97 a good answer on it. It looks like you know no seven we spent thirty three dollars 1425 02:06:32,98 --> 02:06:38,08 in Kuwait we spent thirteen. Far and budgeting under no way. 1426 02:06:41,02 --> 02:06:47,84 We allowed to play within the lines in our budget here in the software. Or that can 1427 02:06:47,85 --> 02:06:54,85 probably be reduced. Or Harry what four hundred NOT didn't happen she hasn't spent 1428 02:06:54,86 --> 02:07:00,53 over one hundred. I don't know what other supplies is here with Marion A that many 1429 02:07:00,54 --> 02:07:06,25 pencils. You know we're going to cast 1430 02:07:06,26 --> 02:07:13,23 a little on going away all the pop sound. So I am high. But 1431 02:07:13,24 --> 02:07:17,66 we're going to now keep in mind when they say Love will find this really is 1432 02:07:17,67 --> 02:07:20,30 a courtesy for the accountant and 1433 02:07:20,31 --> 02:07:27,22 a friend called. Really. Level fund is just that bottle of wine right 1434 02:07:27,35 --> 02:07:31,47 liberals the total you know if we knock down other supplies and you're going to 1435 02:07:31,48 --> 02:07:34,18 increase advertise Right right that's 1436 02:07:34,19 --> 02:07:40,11 a liberation. So you know you can use some of your Any reason you seventy five 1437 02:07:40,12 --> 02:07:46,09 dollars right every time to. Advertise we're going to go to 1438 02:07:46,30 --> 02:07:50,32 a thousand you know was there was no it was nothing but I thought you know we said 1439 02:07:50,69 --> 02:07:56,37 oh yes I'm sorry that you know so it was zero it always you want some of that eight 1440 02:07:56,38 --> 02:08:01,06 hundred probably cover the advertising this year you know what I mean. Clearly 1441 02:08:01,07 --> 02:08:02,70 after thirteen thirty Yeah. 1442 02:08:11,21 --> 02:08:16,67 You you keep going to these well I'm looking for direction training education the 1443 02:08:16,68 --> 02:08:21,49 thousand dollars we didn't spend anything already well if we up our advertising 1444 02:08:21,72 --> 02:08:27,46 that's our Christmas you have. To buy. And of your. 1445 02:08:29,37 --> 02:08:35,35 You want to just take supplies down to zero is always. You know I mean if we leave 1446 02:08:35,36 --> 02:08:36,45 it the same we can always do 1447 02:08:36,46 --> 02:08:42,24 a transfer from one account to the other if we need another supplies right now what 1448 02:08:42,25 --> 02:08:48,82 are we doing on ours for we want to do a hundred or. Under have OK put down 1449 02:08:48,83 --> 02:08:51,02 a grand Fredricka. We've got 1450 02:08:51,03 --> 02:08:56,01 a grant for advertising one hundred for other supplies training and education sero 1451 02:08:56,60 --> 02:09:00,42 fifty dollars just keep coming in and of peace you need that for well that'll go to 1452 02:09:00,43 --> 02:09:04,93 conferences that is for when you go to conferences or seminars or that sort of 1453 02:09:04,94 --> 02:09:11,57 thing and we only spend nothing zip so I think we're here and last year I spent 1454 02:09:11,58 --> 02:09:15,83 fifty Let's let's say hundreds for that one like maybe three hundred or something. 1455 02:09:16,98 --> 02:09:22,20 Crazy. Or you're going well somebody might go I mean you know I think something 1456 02:09:22,21 --> 02:09:25,87 like there are always these conferences that come up right now I went to one 1457 02:09:25,88 --> 02:09:31,22 together copiers ago times you know times you might also want to. Let's say three 1458 02:09:31,23 --> 02:09:36,54 hundred for that one OK that would be six people at fifty bucks each or three 1459 02:09:36,55 --> 02:09:42,02 people hundred each. You know at least if there somebody wants to go to mass 1460 02:09:42,03 --> 02:09:47,14 regional plan here bottom line comes our way. If you do some memberships that's 1461 02:09:47,15 --> 02:09:48,43 pretty much C.L.R. 1462 02:09:48,47 --> 02:09:53,17 Easy for all of you. Yeah we all know that's still 1463 02:09:53,18 --> 02:09:59,32 a good thing on Coop. I mean some years we use the hours and so years we don't 1464 02:10:00,16 --> 02:10:03,81 so we're going to go oh it's so you know I don't currently they're offering to do 1465 02:10:03,82 --> 02:10:09,79 an evaluation of the Webster industrial Arsenal for free. They've done 1466 02:10:09,83 --> 02:10:15,77 a number of things this past year for us for free. They don't traffic holds the 1467 02:10:16,42 --> 02:10:21,86 free if we pay our dues if they have new dimension military they really keep on I 1468 02:10:21,87 --> 02:10:28,46 really think the Thousand and One for the Congress with. No use for the people you 1469 02:10:28,47 --> 02:10:34,51 know. They've done nothing for me. Nothing really you know. 1470 02:10:38,11 --> 02:10:44,95 Couple hours who's our who's our delegate after this OK. Well he is 1471 02:10:44,96 --> 02:10:45,34 again having 1472 02:10:45,35 --> 02:10:49,05 a walk this if everybody wants to know is in the Union Station and was told it was 1473 02:10:49,06 --> 02:10:54,28 not really how easy to get so why did they move so surrounded by barbel beautiful 1474 02:10:54,29 --> 02:10:57,00 view and a construction zone from you could take 1475 02:10:57,01 --> 02:11:02,15 a train right. So it's in they have moved officially moved the second floor to 1476 02:11:02,16 --> 02:11:08,07 Union Station where. My office is on the third floor Yeah sure let's just keep that 1477 02:11:08,68 --> 02:11:11,59 as it is built this looks a little weird when I did fluctuate 1478 02:11:11,60 --> 02:11:15,01 a little Maria calls them and gives an actual dollar zero zero she left 1479 02:11:15,02 --> 02:11:19,79 a messed up last year because you see zero seven was sixty eight hundred. Really 1480 02:11:19,80 --> 02:11:23,70 only budgeted to get that about thousand Yeah and you can see what I've already 1481 02:11:23,71 --> 02:11:29,88 spent because they don't know yet what it is she calls them and what do you think 1482 02:11:29,89 --> 02:11:36,37 it's going to be. Usually things don't go down. I would level funded them. 1483 02:11:38,20 --> 02:11:44,42 So if we put it in for next year I'd probably go with seventeen other. You know 1484 02:11:45,42 --> 02:11:52,38 ready or sutras. And people that Marvel Yeah. OK good nothing 1485 02:11:52,39 --> 02:11:54,40 OK thanks if you think I'll do 1486 02:11:54,41 --> 02:11:58,93 a little funding do you know yet if you're going to follow what you have left your 1487 02:11:59,53 --> 02:12:02,69 global. I have 1488 02:12:02,70 --> 02:12:07,77 a request I see that we go separately budget nor do we seem to have an accounting 1489 02:12:07,78 --> 02:12:12,75 for I don't like playing for you some town council that's low that's one of those 1490 02:12:12,76 --> 02:12:16,92 out there and I would go yes no technical What if you just cut you cut your own 1491 02:12:16,93 --> 02:12:23,65 budget you cut your own throat so to. Two thousand and eight when it's OK this with 1492 02:12:23,66 --> 02:12:27,91 a seven hundred twenty five bucks are now coming from knuckles and I think that was 1493 02:12:27,92 --> 02:12:33,07 far too graphic for paying for maps and stuff so our use of chemical fleet if you 1494 02:12:33,08 --> 02:12:38,71 put that question technical That's right but really my look at you know we haven't 1495 02:12:38,72 --> 02:12:44,12 used them fish year music while this you know I thought we did do 1496 02:12:44,13 --> 02:12:48,72 a bit but good point we had the only other twenty five bucks to date but they made 1497 02:12:48,73 --> 02:12:52,68 it all that much didn't know the question or might My question is I'd like to see 1498 02:12:52,69 --> 02:12:57,34 that singled out if we could I'd like to keep it I am glad we just said we do with 1499 02:12:57,35 --> 02:13:01,83 folks we like practice it but I'd like to track it just because every time we say 1500 02:13:02,17 --> 02:13:06,08 the form has to be approved like OK I'm still in the example of you time and again 1501 02:13:06,09 --> 02:13:11,40 you know sometimes I just think you don't. Need to you tell counsel but I don't 1502 02:13:11,41 --> 02:13:17,96 know how much more we are going to have to tell not this is ever to say 1503 02:13:18,15 --> 02:13:23,31 correct OK no idea if the applicant has to pay that's their business but if we're 1504 02:13:23,32 --> 02:13:29,18 using town council service just how much are we yes spending on their OK Oh look at 1505 02:13:29,19 --> 02:13:36,02 that about where you are. Because it was all lawyers who did that. I might 1506 02:13:36,03 --> 02:13:41,82 interpret that correctly. Or. You never get on. 1507 02:13:45,79 --> 02:13:48,39 That standing around or he's got one C.B. 1508 02:13:48,40 --> 02:13:49,08 Aid and we have 1509 02:13:49,09 --> 02:14:04,91 a bill that. Take care of it and the special permit from the quake. That 1510 02:14:04,92 --> 02:14:06,76 he can out at their imaginary. 1511 02:14:13,73 --> 02:14:20,46 Distance Yes. Anybody read the story that was in the Boston Globe for five days ago 1512 02:14:20,47 --> 02:14:26,14 about the lady survivor that it made it made it it was 1513 02:14:26,15 --> 02:14:30,78 a big story in The Globe and what Douglas I watched our program very very. 1514 02:14:31,83 --> 02:14:35,47 Delicately and I was just curious how the Globe writer was good at describing our 1515 02:14:35,48 --> 02:14:41,51 town and who he was going to talk to who are here he talked to somebody at Subway 1516 02:14:41,82 --> 02:14:47,93 somebody why be wary nobody had goodness nobody to goodness. He doesn't know what 1517 02:14:47,94 --> 02:14:53,88 he's talking about. The real story out there I watched him you know that's one of 1518 02:14:53,89 --> 02:14:56,49 the you get the real story that we were described as 1519 02:14:56,50 --> 02:15:02,49 a close knit community on the border of Connecticut and. We. 1520 02:15:04,20 --> 02:15:04,43 Were 1521 02:15:04,44 --> 02:15:11,44 a community of knitters that I think. She referred to us affectionately is. 1522 02:15:12,46 --> 02:15:17,55 The deaf you know OK. And there was one other reference to 1523 02:15:17,56 --> 02:15:23,43 a writer made about sexual preference to. Keep to. The way their doctor. 1524 02:15:26,26 --> 02:15:32,29 But did you did you think the tone of it was OK about this how no you're not the 1525 02:15:32,30 --> 02:15:38,61 old story or don't remember you know. You know T.V. 1526 02:15:38,62 --> 02:15:44,76 And everything it else read the book story. And did that with your paper too I read 1527 02:15:45,02 --> 02:15:51,87 was that the. Never say. What 1528 02:15:51,88 --> 02:15:56,69 he said about. But affection the less write back you. 1529 02:16:08,51 --> 02:16:13,43 Can make people do it some new sense and you don't. All right. 1530 02:16:20,12 --> 02:16:26,00 The Route sixty corridor study you guys all got this right. You are reacted 1531 02:16:26,01 --> 02:16:31,96 beholden to you know well this is you know the life ordered from over here yeah OK 1532 02:16:32,25 --> 02:16:38,16 Yeah Steve Wallace unseasonal page you have drafted sort of an outline. With 1533 02:16:38,17 --> 02:16:42,77 various recommendation Yeah they want to run it by the Play board the four you know 1534 02:16:43,12 --> 02:16:49,17 put it in the workforce. That's number one number two there's also an invoice I 1535 02:16:49,18 --> 02:16:54,11 think it's the final word that is there is if this movie started right again let's 1536 02:16:54,12 --> 02:17:00,63 cover OK Andrea Yeah you know I don't know if you want to hold off so this shows or 1537 02:17:01,31 --> 02:17:02,27 something well that's 1538 02:17:02,28 --> 02:17:07,50 a good point that in the ways that hold. Anybody have any reaction to this one way 1539 02:17:07,51 --> 02:17:14,44 or the other. Tell them to go for it. Because I'm right that pretty well remark he 1540 02:17:14,44 --> 02:17:20,53 . Respects take orders that he had never really broken through to the curb you get 1541 02:17:20,54 --> 02:17:27,34 the ball park. This is the result of all that. They want us to react to it before 1542 02:17:27,35 --> 02:17:33,51 they go for a formal just right. So they want to. David 1543 02:17:33,52 --> 02:17:36,48 a problem. Rather than. 1544 02:17:41,31 --> 02:17:47,15 Just cited and I don't know I only said that from a document is there seven grand 1545 02:17:47,28 --> 02:17:53,31 a start just hours pretty much pretty well. I don't think it's part of the freebie 1546 02:17:53,32 --> 02:17:57,54 over there by Webster I think you just kind of plug the area and stuff like that 1547 02:17:57,55 --> 02:18:01,88 and then yeah you know your program is going to churn out some standard numbers for 1548 02:18:02,15 --> 02:18:07,17 where footage number vehicle what you know. Where you go. 1549 02:18:09,82 --> 02:18:16,62 I think the census bill will just tell them it's five forty five everybody. So 1550 02:18:16,63 --> 02:18:18,29 clearly efficient or just. 1551 02:18:23,48 --> 02:18:28,95 Right early anything on the well here's what it is. Give us an address for us you 1552 02:18:28,96 --> 02:18:34,88 know it's. Three eighteen North-West mean Street which is on the river straight 1553 02:18:34,89 --> 02:18:41,76 down by the dam. It up with cuts increase right across the DIA 1554 02:18:41,82 --> 02:18:48,20 there by. The water Well I think it is the story before you see it. 1555 02:18:49,95 --> 02:18:50,10 There's 1556 02:18:50,11 --> 02:18:54,62 a dock right here and if they don't have the street numbers on them put the whole 1557 02:18:54,63 --> 02:19:01,57 thing in sure Sherlock. And. They got this code in right there 1558 02:19:01,58 --> 02:19:04,22 so I'm assuming it's right there at the end of the day I'm going to be for they 1559 02:19:04,23 --> 02:19:10,72 will surely have but we sure like you know. What's the number. 1560 02:19:11,75 --> 02:19:15,58 Three Keys I found for them here or is. 1561 02:19:24,10 --> 02:19:30,42 Considering. I know this camp. Or. 1562 02:19:32,03 --> 02:19:32,50 Was it I did 1563 02:19:32,51 --> 02:19:35,90 a lot of that money yes right it ranks right on the Washington State and the last 1564 02:19:35,91 --> 02:19:39,24 one before you get to the dam if you come Quest Means who does actually write one 1565 02:19:39,25 --> 02:19:42,93 other one all right on the point tonight if this is right next morning this one 1566 02:19:42,94 --> 02:19:48,28 failure is towards the. Face or hell on earth to know. 1567 02:19:50,61 --> 02:19:57,06 Which way to. Get. To. 1568 02:19:58,12 --> 02:19:58,91 Know if he's big should be 1569 02:19:58,92 --> 02:20:06,64 a PIA she's right next to Sion right. Steve 1570 02:20:06,65 --> 02:20:08,07 the guy goes to so he had 1571 02:20:08,08 --> 02:20:13,31 a skit at us yes just didn't get it he's right down here this is rather the big 1572 02:20:13,32 --> 02:20:18,21 trees were cut down here just within the year I think yeah that's all they had 1573 02:20:18,22 --> 02:20:21,87 a straight do you know they did it when it's not called it is OK so we're ready for 1574 02:20:21,88 --> 02:20:23,97 us to get an Asus one next to us just 1575 02:20:23,98 --> 02:20:28,66 a little room. Who did not know the mortar garage with all the firewood and that 1576 02:20:28,67 --> 02:20:33,75 would be I don't know OK I want to start on the road fifty nine fifty that's where 1577 02:20:33,76 --> 02:20:38,27 you could see it on the road blocks right on the road so when they want to do it 1578 02:20:38,28 --> 02:20:44,34 already certain to do so. On and on you're sure nice OK one fifteen but this is 1579 02:20:44,35 --> 02:20:46,00 what they want to go right up against requesting 1580 02:20:46,01 --> 02:20:49,68 a special permit pursuant to Section three point four point seven of that I was 1581 02:20:49,69 --> 02:20:52,99 only bylaws to demolish an existing cards and rebuild 1582 02:20:53,00 --> 02:20:57,24 a year round single family dwelling which will exceed the original footprint on 1583 02:20:57,29 --> 02:21:03,17 probably located and I recently just. Saw that's what they want to do want to tear 1584 02:21:03,18 --> 02:21:07,39 down which they're rebuilding year round home but it's not on the original 1585 02:21:07,40 --> 02:21:12,16 footprint so it's an expanded non-conforming that's what it's yeah yeah but it 1586 02:21:12,24 --> 02:21:15,55 doesn't get it doesn't give me any more specific details and yeah that's what 1587 02:21:15,56 --> 02:21:19,93 a lot of people want to do other residents Yeah it's all going to just don't we 1588 02:21:19,94 --> 02:21:25,32 look at that camp by taking off they go and. That water was pulled from the 1589 02:21:25,33 --> 02:21:30,22 reservoir you know there was in the water supply on the site of the sewer system 1590 02:21:30,23 --> 02:21:33,88 either Was it takes you know they're asking for it I think now to still have him 1591 02:21:33,98 --> 02:21:38,97 here in that you're right it shows a fight. I mean you got 1592 02:21:38,98 --> 02:21:40,48 a list of all you've got is a very what 1593 02:21:40,49 --> 02:21:45,03 a fight I'm going to accomplish here myself personally I mean some because he said 1594 02:21:45,04 --> 02:21:49,29 gruffly I want to sort of. I don't I don't I just don't know how much over the 1595 02:21:49,30 --> 02:21:52,14 footbridge they're going to doesn't I'm not fighting under control over the 1596 02:21:52,15 --> 02:21:58,45 footbridge. But I got to feel like going to work they're expensive. You got one 1597 02:21:58,49 --> 02:22:05,33 more. Yeah I mean I still don't really but you know I'm not getting 1598 02:22:05,34 --> 02:22:08,84 any. And I could be writing 1599 02:22:08,85 --> 02:22:13,84 a dimension should anybody ever feel one way or the other about it. Nation. 1600 02:22:16,04 --> 02:22:18,79 Don't want to put it the big one yeah I don't have 1601 02:22:18,80 --> 02:22:25,71 a half of yours. But the one who wants to. Take me. Took 1602 02:22:25,72 --> 02:22:31,76 out. Many many McMansion and we created this look like all the others to make 1603 02:22:31,77 --> 02:22:37,92 a mix of. Many Mansions just. 1604 02:22:38,99 --> 02:22:43,26 Low and very little in the air here is eight thousand seven hundred twelve square 1605 02:22:43,27 --> 02:22:48,09 free the French is this fifty the frontage is fifty eight point two four in that 1606 02:22:48,22 --> 02:22:49,63 the lot is one hundred feet deep. 1607 02:22:55,83 --> 02:23:01,11 And the size of the building built against all are going requirements and doesn't 1608 02:23:01,12 --> 02:23:05,75 meet site setback requirements on some I think mine doesn't you know it's a that's 1609 02:23:05,76 --> 02:23:10,66 a preexisting or for the purpose of course you know what it's going to make it more 1610 02:23:10,67 --> 02:23:12,80 known. In case it's 1611 02:23:12,81 --> 02:23:17,97 a nonconformity between the list just something that when I usually go bought one 1612 02:23:17,98 --> 02:23:24,74 for that. You really don't. Know what you're going to put on board 1613 02:23:25,45 --> 02:23:32,44 but it can recommend you know. It increases not take 1614 02:23:32,45 --> 02:23:39,38 it for read too much. Like. 1615 02:23:44,32 --> 02:23:50,77 This it shows. You something is easy to do is not just you really it's where. You 1616 02:23:50,78 --> 02:23:56,16 know you know that yes just like the music producer has this is what you get this 1617 02:23:56,17 --> 02:23:59,95 is this daughter line would be the original theme of their discipline this is what 1618 02:23:59,95 --> 02:23:59,95 . 1619 02:24:19,41 --> 02:24:22,29 All right also there are more last year I guess there's 1620 02:24:22,30 --> 02:24:29,03 a look at it but what you really know no matter. What the polls 1621 02:24:29,51 --> 02:24:35,76 that you have put such as you know. For somebody advice re opinion to the years 1622 02:24:35,77 --> 02:24:37,01 you'd be a good yeah as 1623 02:24:37,02 --> 02:24:44,02 a believer from the beginning. You would have turned on me and. All right 1624 02:24:44,81 --> 02:24:51,76 if you design want to go. Now I still want to buy and put 1625 02:24:51,77 --> 02:24:57,66 a summer tent there. But he doesn't want to pay with it only you know. I'm down 1626 02:24:58,02 --> 02:25:02,85 does the alternatives proposal conflict with the local comprehensive plan you. 1627 02:25:04,13 --> 02:25:10,75 Settle For what do you think about comprehensive. Coverage of 1628 02:25:10,84 --> 02:25:15,69 government run plan when you are well they asked about that has this letter to us 1629 02:25:15,73 --> 02:25:22,72 that. They've given political took but I don't think for alternatives 1630 02:25:22,97 --> 02:25:29,39 they just wanted you know alternatives. That project that Douglas is going to 1631 02:25:29,78 --> 02:25:32,89 conflict with any local coverage is 1632 02:25:32,90 --> 02:25:37,75 a plan that we have for all alternatives that's why he had the ability go down by 1633 02:25:37,76 --> 02:25:42,23 the Right down the right in renovating and yeah so it's pretty much done you're 1634 02:25:42,24 --> 02:25:48,88 right that they did it right there. I don't think it does and I said I'd 1635 02:25:48,89 --> 02:25:49,44 already did 1636 02:25:49,45 --> 02:25:54,27 a beautiful job of that billion lines and it is gorgeous unbelievable you know nice 1637 02:25:54,28 --> 02:26:00,09 job. It's good we got this list we did it for research and I think I've been asked 1638 02:26:00,10 --> 02:26:06,23 to just for info that are sort of more info on it's going to be used by the 1639 02:26:06,24 --> 02:26:11,00 handbook so I want to know what all that I'm putting in applications the actual 1640 02:26:11,01 --> 02:26:12,96 output OK you get 1641 02:26:12,97 --> 02:26:17,67 a little research. As I gave in my research and you know what you got is conferred 1642 02:26:17,68 --> 02:26:23,47 right yeah oh. Somebody rules and regs do we have any more 1643 02:26:24,11 --> 02:26:29,92 offhand that will get from you. That's what I think we've gone through the whole 1644 02:26:30,06 --> 02:26:36,54 raft of the body of the document the forms I've handed out previously which need to 1645 02:26:36,55 --> 02:26:43,02 be. Wiped off the pictures which is going to be very troubled but for instance. 1646 02:26:44,79 --> 02:26:49,46 This section six so required approved for street roadway did we go through all this 1647 02:26:49,47 --> 02:26:53,87 through and I believe we went through all that then seven is the one I don't think 1648 02:26:53,88 --> 02:27:00,88 we may have gone for this administration. But I'll come through Section five when 1649 02:27:01,52 --> 02:27:08,51 it's this nice dinner don't we put up with these for the moment yes. I don't have 1650 02:27:08,52 --> 02:27:12,66 a lot that's outstanding from something that he rules you know I just got 1651 02:27:12,67 --> 02:27:17,79 a first private solo to be pages on this they have written comments and they do 1652 02:27:17,80 --> 02:27:19,89 permit. From 1653 02:27:19,96 --> 02:27:26,85 a so. And. Well for that it 1654 02:27:26,86 --> 02:27:33,62 be fun. For Congress not the state from Federation of pleaded guilty to pretty much 1655 02:27:33,63 --> 02:27:38,49 go with these write it well we'll have to type of because we're not quite cookie 1656 02:27:38,59 --> 02:27:45,42 cutter right. So anybody Yes I would. Just mark 1657 02:27:45,81 --> 02:27:47,38 yeah that's what we have to do we've got 1658 02:27:47,39 --> 02:27:53,55 a school board if someone's going to go. To SO terms of this far if you see. 1659 02:27:54,81 --> 02:28:01,61 If you missed it we have to talk about. How much time you think we 1660 02:28:01,62 --> 02:28:07,53 should set aside. And should not look at the rules and regs before we move to. 1661 02:28:08,56 --> 02:28:14,33 A public hearing I mean can we do it in one or two hour chunks you know I think so 1662 02:28:14,56 --> 02:28:21,40 I think we're pretty solid OK. As you reflect on all the stuff we've talked about 1663 02:28:21,46 --> 02:28:28,16 with our subdivision rules and regs is there any. What do you anticipate more to be 1664 02:28:28,17 --> 02:28:34,69 the big issues that we're going to get off on others as they were called the 1665 02:28:34,70 --> 02:28:40,26 satellite. I mean I have a list of things that we've been going through. For 1666 02:28:40,27 --> 02:28:40,98 a walk have 1667 02:28:40,99 --> 02:28:46,36 a lot of them we've. Wrapped up but that had street that was one that we. 1668 02:28:49,01 --> 02:28:52,46 Did all agree on but were there any others that you can think of something simply 1669 02:28:52,47 --> 02:28:58,37 that. I know we we did not all agree on how much detail the polyphony every play. 1670 02:28:59,45 --> 02:29:03,67 Because we were afraid that if you load some were afraid to load that up too much 1671 02:29:03,68 --> 02:29:10,36 that people just skip it. Right and you end up or not. So 1672 02:29:10,49 --> 02:29:14,44 listen and so the detail of the preliminary plan was along the length of the 1673 02:29:14,45 --> 02:29:19,31 culdesac was about Were there any others that you could think of. When really no 1674 02:29:19,32 --> 02:29:24,65 history no. Play. With no way to compete. 1675 02:29:26,07 --> 02:29:32,87 Over right OK. Earlier Bill as you reflect apply to other Any something box 1676 02:29:32,88 --> 02:29:39,47 set. I know there were one or two that was. That it about but I thought I mean 1677 02:29:39,84 --> 02:29:42,08 during that well OK we're still waiting on 1678 02:29:42,09 --> 02:29:48,51 a couple things but I think the discussion pretty much ever go to surface on both 1679 02:29:48,52 --> 02:29:55,49 of you to make sure I think you can plug in to. Your We 1680 02:29:55,50 --> 02:29:58,06 talked about. I have 1681 02:29:58,07 --> 02:30:04,46 a stop to get four point two point click the last time. I get it it's five forty 1682 02:30:05,20 --> 02:30:09,56 one. Not this four point two point one. 1683 02:30:12,74 --> 02:30:17,62 Definitive I get writing all the way through six nine seven I don't have any 1684 02:30:17,63 --> 02:30:23,64 writing. Writing on seven. Writing 1685 02:30:23,65 --> 02:30:30,03 a. Seven day pass for I think you know I think you're right she says that you're 1686 02:30:30,04 --> 02:30:32,70 going to be to us and that's part of the problem. 1687 02:30:37,39 --> 02:30:43,37 So. I don't think we talked about this did I get 1688 02:30:44,28 --> 02:30:50,84 back to I thought. I don't have to go through several 1689 02:30:50,85 --> 02:30:56,96 several iterations to. He may not have gone through a lot of five or does 1690 02:30:56,97 --> 02:31:02,89 a say two thousand and seven dash Rebs at the bottom. Yeah OK yeah you know you 1691 02:31:02,90 --> 02:31:09,45 haven't gone through the Basically what that version is is taking your original 1692 02:31:09,46 --> 02:31:15,00 comments or phrasing them into the body here. So yeah. 1693 02:31:19,17 --> 02:31:23,05 If you have something which can cause them some gripes at the top Yeah that's been 1694 02:31:23,27 --> 02:31:29,14 good and I think we've been going through that. Right I want to first look at that 1695 02:31:29,18 --> 02:31:32,84 that's right and have that about why it was all the way that's right if you think 1696 02:31:32,85 --> 02:31:39,33 going through that and making it it's to that to see if I got it right and. 1697 02:31:41,06 --> 02:31:46,44 Far as far as you can tell for health for up to Section four right now for forty 1698 02:31:47,16 --> 02:31:53,16 three through over point two There are very well let's take our first look at her 1699 02:31:53,85 --> 02:32:00,68 OK everybody everybody OK with that. You know. Group will do this for you but. 1700 02:32:02,38 --> 02:32:07,37 That's the last that if we have it will be all be done so four point two point one 1701 02:32:07,38 --> 02:32:13,84 general. Is going to plan something for fifteen K. 1702 02:32:14,29 --> 02:32:18,56 If you look at that they have got to get organized serious about it we're going to 1703 02:32:18,57 --> 02:32:24,13 get over this is the one to look at it you know over three separate. And it thinks 1704 02:32:24,14 --> 02:32:29,52 I have to look at who's on first Avenue August seventh I don't know that's good 1705 02:32:29,57 --> 02:32:36,38 what's on second I don't know I don't know is out there I don't know. If the. First 1706 02:32:36,39 --> 02:32:42,82 place we all feel good. OK So for every one 1707 02:32:42,83 --> 02:32:45,00 general any questions are coming from this one. 1708 02:32:51,27 --> 02:32:56,51 OK We're going to go with that. Four point two point one what's this general. 1709 02:32:58,87 --> 02:33:04,88 Newcomer knew was the definitive player sit should conform 1710 02:33:04,89 --> 02:33:11,86 substantially. And you have shall soon see that's what it originally said Roy 1711 02:33:11,90 --> 02:33:17,70 your list changed to do it. At work. Quickly. 1712 02:33:19,13 --> 02:33:22,94 And I think the problem is that you are not the problem but the reason is that. 1713 02:33:24,59 --> 02:33:28,66 They're going to play this it's got to linearity and after discussion. 1714 02:33:32,09 --> 02:33:34,33 It may be a change states go with a company with 1715 02:33:34,34 --> 02:33:40,61 a good fit it might be it might be somewhat. So it makes for 1716 02:33:40,62 --> 02:33:46,26 a very planned if you're going to plan your. Get away takes away for you why you do 1717 02:33:46,27 --> 02:33:51,72 that and would like. To change due to poor preliminary. 1718 02:33:55,98 --> 02:34:02,80 Because it is. Under the preliminary you're not going to get 1719 02:34:02,81 --> 02:34:09,41 denied as you would under the Food and. Not Steal for all reason to do it 1720 02:34:09,92 --> 02:34:15,66 so as you do for me I would think I'd want to develop my propriety limited. 1721 02:34:17,56 --> 02:34:17,92 And I as 1722 02:34:17,93 --> 02:34:24,45 a developer you want the accurate information just so in the end I've got my 1723 02:34:24,46 --> 02:34:31,31 definitive one I think that's the hope but things may change that. It 1724 02:34:31,32 --> 02:34:31,63 might be 1725 02:34:31,64 --> 02:34:37,27 a bit different from various At least. OK sure gives out most of the freedom to 1726 02:34:37,33 --> 02:34:39,98 develop for a limited plan at 1727 02:34:39,99 --> 02:34:44,66 a lesser level to be able to have communication about that with the planning board 1728 02:34:44,70 --> 02:34:51,59 if it shall. Conform. Substantially substantially in safe you know 1729 02:34:51,69 --> 02:34:58,65 substantially distil that that catch your old term and right they both have. That 1730 02:34:58,66 --> 02:35:02,32 shelters it should I think. So. 1731 02:35:05,62 --> 02:35:06,53 Should just give them 1732 02:35:06,54 --> 02:35:13,05 a little water even I think very. Hard. 1733 02:35:14,31 --> 02:35:16,40 But I understand 1734 02:35:17,54 --> 02:35:24,16 a lot of opera words problems come from terms like should and 1735 02:35:24,17 --> 02:35:30,94 substantially. And we're always for some time rather we always 1736 02:35:30,95 --> 02:35:37,20 wrestle with the sure doesn't stand substantially. Anything for the if it comes. 1737 02:35:38,50 --> 02:35:44,36 I disagree but what that means is it warns of great thank you as the deep here 1738 02:35:44,37 --> 02:35:51,08 comes up to fill in the details. It's like zero tolerance it's like 1739 02:35:51,74 --> 02:35:58,57 zero do for continuous improvement. Every time one of these problems 1740 02:35:58,58 --> 02:36:05,05 can drop you fix it that problem will never come up again now but one 1741 02:36:05,44 --> 02:36:11,38 problem very simply put it on like to most likely will come up very similar but 1742 02:36:11,39 --> 02:36:18,20 that one won't. Be if you keep it if you constantly keep 1743 02:36:18,21 --> 02:36:23,08 those vague terms in there don't all come up again. 1744 02:36:27,44 --> 02:36:34,27 I wouldn't know how you would use any of it. Or create. Any other 1745 02:36:34,42 --> 02:36:38,99 listing issues that could replace something like substantially in this case. 1746 02:36:41,06 --> 02:36:46,92 Because just as soon as you do some other issue war item will come out that is an 1747 02:36:46,93 --> 02:36:52,88 include the right list and then you have no way of. Judging the job on that or 1748 02:36:52,89 --> 02:36:55,42 judge you for playing we do have 1749 02:36:55,43 --> 02:37:00,81 a way because if you it could be that if it isn't mentioned in the not allow. 1750 02:37:03,70 --> 02:37:10,57 Let's leave it it should be OK fine I I'm used to talking to trees that's OK You 1751 02:37:10,66 --> 02:37:15,81 know they can go back some time to. Reason that they're worried you should be 1752 02:37:15,82 --> 02:37:21,25 worried that day let's go to court to Q Finally much the trees all come to light. 1753 02:37:22,33 --> 02:37:26,39 Because I just scanned that anybody who saw it I don't know know I'm in 1754 02:37:27,25 --> 02:37:33,28 a lot of it all the faces and the truth is of the revised version but the Lord Of 1755 02:37:33,29 --> 02:37:39,87 The Rings. Want to Rick see. So I just get four point two two really covers the 1756 02:37:39,88 --> 02:37:46,83 questions anybody want to politicize. Which was one of the why. There 1757 02:37:46,84 --> 02:37:52,78 is. Well. I had to pull said. 1758 02:37:56,73 --> 02:38:03,18 Living by the yeah I have to twenty two when you really about these 1759 02:38:03,78 --> 02:38:10,49 you know you still need twenty to. Twenty two you know you get that I mean if 1760 02:38:10,50 --> 02:38:15,82 you're all you know thinking you know why they don't know you got it's like. No 1761 02:38:15,83 --> 02:38:20,36 actually you know we really believe that every dollar we did we did it was going to 1762 02:38:20,37 --> 02:38:26,87 show you know. Seven here alone in the. Five hundred 1763 02:38:26,88 --> 02:38:30,96 variations of police incentive call the departure of the bombers going to fire 1764 02:38:30,97 --> 02:38:36,87 police you know if I am going to join us you know so like me and you but we're only 1765 02:38:36,88 --> 02:38:40,41 going to send them to reduced on stuff that's very limited that's why you know 1766 02:38:40,42 --> 02:38:45,88 those are reduced to what it yeah it's just full size one after bound copies it 1767 02:38:45,89 --> 02:38:52,74 should say current the sea level and inches by eighteen inches. Of snowfall 1768 02:38:53,18 --> 02:38:54,81 here he was full size and out into 1769 02:38:54,82 --> 02:38:58,92 a full size of twenty. You know two full size and twenty two 1770 02:38:58,93 --> 02:39:05,25 a little. Actually yeah it might be old and I had two full size and twenty Yeah 1771 02:39:05,52 --> 02:39:12,23 that's twenty two altogether that's twenty two correct. Twenty two OK 1772 02:39:12,34 --> 02:39:17,14 to full size and twenty a lot of buy eighteen totals 1773 02:39:17,25 --> 02:39:22,30 a total of twenty two. And I had twenty two Anybody born but thirty six 1774 02:39:22,31 --> 02:39:28,95 a book for this use. And those to be saving those trees that you brought through 1775 02:39:28,96 --> 02:39:33,23 the use those are the ones that talk back. Here. 1776 02:39:38,97 --> 02:39:45,21 OK Anybody else. Anything with that number one issue scanned through A.B.C. 1777 02:39:45,61 --> 02:39:52,28 And so on. We had any problems with this. Part of it no Paul coughing 1778 02:39:52,34 --> 02:39:58,93 no actually people prefer that way. Let me just read this again. Two full 1779 02:39:58,94 --> 02:40:04,29 sized privacy twenty four inch by thirty six inch and twenty reduced size of the 1780 02:40:04,30 --> 02:40:09,59 seal of an inch of my eighteen inch actually flown by the came with half size yes 1781 02:40:10,27 --> 02:40:15,82 twelve by eight hundred individually by all copies of the file. OK you got that. 1782 02:40:17,53 --> 02:40:19,88 So as we look through A.B.C. D.E.F. 1783 02:40:20,28 --> 02:40:22,73 That's pretty pretty standard lawyer. 1784 02:40:27,89 --> 02:40:34,83 I'm pretty good with Oh. Yeah. Well you just go into the 1785 02:40:34,84 --> 02:40:40,41 letters right write down what we've done over. The. 1786 02:40:41,44 --> 02:40:44,94 Kid. Get out of everything. 1787 02:40:48,56 --> 02:40:55,01 This is what we're doing now currently Bill. Prefer the N.R.C. 1788 02:40:55,64 --> 02:41:02,16 You know that these are what was in our policy and people have complied with it so 1789 02:41:02,16 --> 02:41:05,79 . And R.C.S. 1790 02:41:05,79 --> 02:41:12,38 . Yeah stands for. Yes the research very good to watch reading. 1791 02:41:13,70 --> 02:41:15,83 It's not at all it says National I have 1792 02:41:15,84 --> 02:41:22,52 a friend what is it it's natural natural Are you sure draw resource conservation 1793 02:41:22,53 --> 02:41:23,39 and R.C.S. 1794 02:41:23,44 --> 02:41:27,51 Makes sense that your resources department of natural resources to feel very good. 1795 02:41:29,41 --> 02:41:36,04 If it was a twenty. Course it was just a sense. To everyone who enter C.S. 1796 02:41:36,05 --> 02:41:41,12 And. Already but he also so I guess number three is actually saying. 1797 02:41:43,27 --> 02:41:49,07 You know we. Get on with really well let's just we're not down to number two we 1798 02:41:49,08 --> 02:41:54,69 have to jump to three we're back on H H I J K Yeah everybody good Any questions are 1799 02:41:54,70 --> 02:41:57,68 no. There's no P. 1800 02:41:57,69 --> 02:42:04,66 And Q We're doing. All right so number two after case you can see these are 1801 02:42:04,67 --> 02:42:10,01 fee schedules free career well pretty happy was the only thing that's really 1802 02:42:10,06 --> 02:42:15,56 changed is we require five dollars. Per bought or it stayed for mailing 1803 02:42:16,48 --> 02:42:22,20 and I think the certified mail it fosters above that no doubt it changed the 1804 02:42:22,21 --> 02:42:27,31 schedule of simply by moving the ball over their site all really should see it try 1805 02:42:27,32 --> 02:42:31,11 to think about doing things like that's the only thing that I can think will really 1806 02:42:31,12 --> 02:42:36,73 need to think about acne poised. Closely five dollars and change for 1807 02:42:36,74 --> 02:42:38,45 a bottle OK so if you get 1808 02:42:38,46 --> 02:42:41,13 a lease that what you what you have to pay you know we should be paying 1809 02:42:41,14 --> 02:42:42,71 a fee schedules us five dollars for 1810 02:42:42,72 --> 02:42:46,64 a bottle you know when we get into things that are on Earth and we dress that way 1811 02:42:46,65 --> 02:42:53,63 to get something sexy to have changed again she was. Right 1812 02:42:53,64 --> 02:43:00,13 anybody also number two that we have to get these. So we may have to think about 1813 02:43:00,14 --> 02:43:03,01 a public here if we want to get you know something I have 1814 02:43:03,02 --> 02:43:06,22 a know number to draw on J. 1815 02:43:07,18 --> 02:43:14,11 List waiver for. And without waivers has on 1816 02:43:14,12 --> 02:43:20,65 Page Section four one four. One four 1817 02:43:20,70 --> 02:43:27,45 Cast service waiver list from definitive plan requirements and explanation of 1818 02:43:27,46 --> 02:43:29,86 how the Green Team know the way it would be in 1819 02:43:29,87 --> 02:43:35,91 a fog good interest circuits in its demonstrate how the something vision could be 1820 02:43:35,92 --> 02:43:42,67 built without any way this from the definitive one. That's where we wanted to. 1821 02:43:43,79 --> 02:43:49,40 Would not I should try to turn here but we talked about with the disk in 1822 02:43:49,41 --> 02:43:55,42 a different plane and it. Handing in the non waiver would look like you know where 1823 02:43:55,69 --> 02:44:02,43 did we not have this down yet and yes in the prelim it's in for one for OK or one 1824 02:44:02,44 --> 02:44:04,87 for what or who won for us. 1825 02:44:10,18 --> 02:44:15,04 OK. Yeah before you ask. 1826 02:44:17,01 --> 02:44:18,30 Too many could agree with. 1827 02:44:24,23 --> 02:44:25,18 You talk about J. 1828 02:44:25,18 --> 02:44:32,08 . List of waivers requests. What's your question or what would you like to 1829 02:44:32,09 --> 02:44:37,47 see. Them say. 1830 02:44:39,89 --> 02:44:46,83 Who. Agree with or one for us which 1831 02:44:46,84 --> 02:44:52,05 is the same thing list of ways or you know explain how it's in of public interest 1832 02:44:52,06 --> 02:44:58,42 attacks be the same and go there. Is reasonable Yeah. 1833 02:45:01,17 --> 02:45:04,24 You took a text of the earlier ones I don't think you need 1834 02:45:04,25 --> 02:45:08,17 a license so demonstrate how the subdivision could be built. In 1835 02:45:08,18 --> 02:45:12,83 a definitive because you've already done that they may not have done it. For you to 1836 02:45:12,84 --> 02:45:19,02 marry them a good point if they did your career. Without a waiver from that is 1837 02:45:19,21 --> 02:45:26,20 a really good point. If any else up 1838 02:45:26,21 --> 02:45:33,20 through number two. If you talk about the. Reviews 1839 02:45:33,21 --> 02:45:34,36 that say freezy. 1840 02:45:39,90 --> 02:45:46,60 OK Very good we have application fees maybe that leader. Number three the 1841 02:45:46,61 --> 02:45:53,40 sizing bill is that redundant it is I say let's get rid of three altogether so no 1842 02:45:53,41 --> 02:45:59,99 more get up to the top Are you sure. Because three talks about the drawings 1843 02:46:00,46 --> 02:46:06,07 and just the drawings whereas. Items eight through K. 1844 02:46:06,08 --> 02:46:06,17 Are 1845 02:46:06,18 --> 02:46:13,18 a lot of reports which you wouldn't want to do reports of size. So I think 1846 02:46:13,19 --> 02:46:18,03 you know I think maybe the twenty two thousand copies of probably correct there you 1847 02:46:18,04 --> 02:46:22,05 know have any reference to. The Y.C. 1848 02:46:22,06 --> 02:46:26,02 I said and. Because you know yeah you know plans 1849 02:46:26,27 --> 02:46:29,99 a lot of them are plans and help and they march right because I question that I 1850 02:46:30,39 --> 02:46:32,65 don't care so I think you said is there 1851 02:46:32,66 --> 02:46:36,51 a place where the doors up and I know they just kept getting worked out I figured 1852 02:46:36,52 --> 02:46:41,63 out they're talking different types of things and then put the. Q. 1853 02:46:41,69 --> 02:46:48,43 And A twenty three yes. To both sets of twenty reduce the I got twenty two 1854 02:46:48,44 --> 02:46:51,68 again listed you might get one to be quite 1855 02:46:51,69 --> 02:46:54,64 a bump but twenty two we have the reason we came up with twenty two 1856 02:46:54,92 --> 02:47:00,77 a total according to. Says two full size engineering drawings and twenty two 1857 02:47:00,89 --> 02:47:05,38 reduced right eleven by just change twenty to twenty you know added to the two 1858 02:47:05,39 --> 02:47:06,41 people so I don't really have 1859 02:47:06,42 --> 02:47:11,99 a total twenty two right but it not something I'm saying is twenty two full size 1860 02:47:12,04 --> 02:47:15,44 are for office use but what we do is we keep 1861 02:47:15,45 --> 02:47:22,35 a record file and we mark up the other stuff so give them back to the other one and 1862 02:47:22,36 --> 02:47:28,77 all. Those are in your house and that basically picks dirt. And then all the 1863 02:47:28,81 --> 02:47:32,45 others and I have to really think about it again I think because I think that's why 1864 02:47:32,46 --> 02:47:36,64 we don't get twenty two because we came all these one by you did but two of those 1865 02:47:36,65 --> 02:47:39,68 twenty two I thought you would see that the two full size it would take care of you 1866 02:47:39,69 --> 02:47:46,17 guys your office. Right rest went to the board other departments Deller right 1867 02:47:46,63 --> 02:47:50,30 but I'd have to think about it come up with the twenty two but I know we went 1868 02:47:50,31 --> 02:47:53,47 through it when I was at it why we came up with twenty two women I don't know I 1869 02:47:53,48 --> 02:47:55,13 know we did it was 1870 02:47:55,14 --> 02:47:58,53 a review but I thought the two plus twenty maybe twenty you know I was twenty 1871 02:47:58,57 --> 02:48:00,84 because we counted I mean we got them all up in 1872 02:48:00,85 --> 02:48:03,77 a game ought to be twenty four that we actually needed if we wanted to distribute 1873 02:48:03,78 --> 02:48:08,57 one piece of it all right. So I think it should stay at twenty two I would welcome 1874 02:48:08,58 --> 02:48:15,56 people die sometime. OK so that's that 1875 02:48:15,81 --> 02:48:22,17 observation Mark made. About that the top cloud was different 1876 02:48:22,62 --> 02:48:29,32 yes OK yes. Right anybody else no number three two full size 1877 02:48:29,33 --> 02:48:35,79 OK or two pound coffee. OK with everybody of the stamp and data store 1878 02:48:35,80 --> 02:48:36,59 a venture capital 1879 02:48:36,60 --> 02:48:41,48 a chanst like that from Section four point two point three point high point. 1880 02:48:44,07 --> 02:48:50,70 Which is the one that's. To look back there you'll find that or three. 1881 02:48:52,61 --> 02:48:56,95 Point two that I looked at that I said they don't even talk about that yet so 1882 02:48:57,59 --> 02:49:02,89 whatever I just said give me those numbers again please if you think I am right for 1883 02:49:02,90 --> 02:49:08,16 two three I am or four point two point three I am. 1884 02:49:12,10 --> 02:49:18,34 Right along. Right here right and here is them 1885 02:49:18,62 --> 02:49:25,25 a story that you are you yeah. All right then how about the 1886 02:49:25,26 --> 02:49:31,19 paragraph after yourself I deliver your reporters real questions on that is that 1887 02:49:31,24 --> 02:49:35,15 how we do it now yes no problems with that OK. 1888 02:49:38,55 --> 02:49:45,10 OK let's do four point two point three. And then we're going to wrap up. The full 1889 02:49:45,11 --> 02:49:49,49 weight of it I think they're going to. Look at this. 1890 02:49:52,32 --> 02:49:58,78 Right you. Just want to be sure. In one thousand nine hundred for the. 1891 02:50:00,30 --> 02:50:01,45 Updated subdivision 1892 02:50:01,46 --> 02:50:06,97 a troll laws so now you you cannot submit stuff to the Town Clerk it's not legal. 1893 02:50:08,34 --> 02:50:12,85 It must be submitted submission of subdivision plans is to be made at 1894 02:50:12,86 --> 02:50:19,62 a planning board meeting or registered mail to the playing board. Where you get 1895 02:50:19,84 --> 02:50:23,51 you know what that's news to me Chapter one sixty nine of the Act of one thousand 1896 02:50:23,52 --> 02:50:25,63 nine hundred four. Is 1897 02:50:25,64 --> 02:50:32,57 a. Clerk and more legally remove passes to build up when you do good as 1898 02:50:32,58 --> 02:50:38,92 in the clock stuff and for reasons. I don't trust what she says is that still has 1899 02:50:38,93 --> 02:50:42,94 affected areas of the C.D.'s you know why she stayed in the thirteen years ago last 1900 02:50:42,94 --> 02:50:49,72 . Year and what we stand for. And would say we boy 1901 02:50:49,73 --> 02:50:56,71 after the. Fact that I could write. OK 1902 02:50:56,72 --> 02:51:01,06 so the wordy there are four point two point three is that OK as this doesn't talk 1903 02:51:01,07 --> 02:51:07,96 a lot of time corkage doesn't. It's after the time clock time clocks in the 1904 02:51:07,97 --> 02:51:14,95 paragraph Oh OK So look at that chapter what was it one sixty nine 1905 02:51:15,22 --> 02:51:22,17 after one sixth of the acts of war. Of the general lottery or general of. 1906 02:51:23,20 --> 02:51:29,37 I'm sure it's got cold to fight under the control of our big Should me how do you 1907 02:51:29,38 --> 02:51:35,07 know right from the general why you sort of Crackerjack that you get to sleep right 1908 02:51:35,08 --> 02:51:40,79 here if you finish the dictionary so we start in on that. Occasion What are you 1909 02:51:40,80 --> 02:51:44,80 going to everybody says the words just cover sheet if you really need 1910 02:51:44,81 --> 02:51:50,94 a life I haven't. Really seen that cover he revealed he has already started and I 1911 02:51:51,32 --> 02:51:56,25 just have to get the right tree. You keep looking good because 1912 02:51:56,26 --> 02:51:58,17 a lot of you still OK what the cut 1913 02:51:58,18 --> 02:52:02,95 a lot of. The front of your screen there thank God are you going to go around and 1914 02:52:03,34 --> 02:52:05,45 talk on the US or league I think that's 1915 02:52:05,46 --> 02:52:10,70 a yeah no no no it's reason they're not talking to me. This really goes on let's 1916 02:52:10,71 --> 02:52:16,48 see what you take if you know your day so you know I'm not going to get anything 1917 02:52:16,49 --> 02:52:23,06 for the board no right Oh Sir David thank you for what you built 1918 02:52:23,40 --> 02:52:28,00 you just want to mention So everyone is aware we did have some mylars over there 1919 02:52:28,01 --> 02:52:32,62 that worked for you to be signed to my arsehole such as he signed. 1920 02:52:34,77 --> 02:52:40,91 The company and was not signed by the out what to do with him for this group did he 1921 02:52:41,06 --> 02:52:47,45 never agree skates. And co-counsel has some issues with some of the languages 1922 02:52:47,63 --> 02:52:54,54 Eastman's to so still. Maybe just maybe next day OK thing else he's aware of that 1923 02:52:54,55 --> 02:53:00,71 you know. I'm all for science like all for that's why I thought I was right always 1924 02:53:00,72 --> 02:53:04,75 say Yeah OK guys I saw him sitting and i told me to stick around you know we could 1925 02:53:04,76 --> 02:53:08,48 try to get him. Mark. 1926 02:53:12,27 --> 02:53:13,49 Motion to adjourn it is almost 1927 02:53:13,50 --> 02:53:20,47 a security guy gave it favor. They 1928 02:53:20,76 --> 02:53:24,49 can carry to be cured if not fifty. Fake everybody. 1929 02:53:28,64 --> 02:53:33,25 Else. Seventy two weeks right check us out if they want to.